(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2009 U.S. Open, Zhiyuan "Andy" Liu vs. Myung-Wan Kim, rnd 5, board 1]PW[Zhiyuan "Andy" Liu]PB[Myung-Wan Kim]WR[7d]BR[8p]DT[2009-08-07]EV[2009 U.S. Open]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Max Peterson]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Hi.
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;B[pd]C[norg [3k\]: Looks to be a game worth watching :D
mcw85 [7k\]: Andy beat Feng Yun yesterday. 8-)
mcw85 [7k\]: 7p, 9p now an 8p...
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;W[dd]
;B[qo]C[norg [3k\]: That's assuming he can beat the 8p ;)
mcw85 [7k\]: I wonder if he will play Mingjiu Jiang at the NAIM today.
mcw85 [7k\]: I am assuming so.
mcw85 [7k\]: I am assuming he has the ability to win, of course.
Arhiman [2k\]: go bbw, eat another pro-sheep !
USGO1 [-\]: Andy should be facing Mingjiu Jiang tonight as well.
play234 [-\]: so andy is undefeated and has beat 2 pros?
norg [3k\]: Undefeated in both tournaments :)
Arhiman [2k\]: 3 pro-sheep eaten by a bbw, that recalls me something
mcw85 [7k\]: He defeated 2 pros in the NAIM.
BenSenTen [?\]: bbw?
play234 [-\]: any pros in this tourney yet?
Arhiman [2k\]: big bag wold
Arhiman [2k\]: wolf
szaloony [5k\]: yeah great week for kgs kibitzers. go bbw!
norg [3k\]: Andy Liu is BigBadWolf on KGS
Arhiman [2k\]: bad
mcw85 [7k\]: Bigbadwolff (BBW) is Andy's KGS nick.
GoGetta [-\]: Cross joseki
BenSenTen [?\]: oh, i c, thx
norg [3k\]: p5! :D
BenSenTen [?\]: bbw has any chance to beat tartrate?
ply [?\]: sdfsdfs
ply [?\]: sdfsdfsd
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;W[qf]C[ply [?\]: dfsfsdfsdf
ply [?\]: dsfsdfsd
ply [?\]: sdfsdfsd
ply [?\]: dsfsdfsdf
ply [?\]: sdfsdfsd
ply [?\]: sdfsdfs
ply [?\]: sdfsdfsd
ply [?\]: sddfsddf
ply [?\]: sdfsdgsdf
ply [?\]: dsfsdfsd f
bensenseii [-\]: Kicked
ply [?\]: dsfsdfsd
esko [2k\]: .....
iampuh [1d\]: bye bye
BenSenTen [?\]: malfunction..
ply [?\]: dsfDSFdSsdfsdfsdsdfsd
vroom [7k\]: brain malfunction?
flaw [2d\]: :D
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't know if BBW has any chance to beat tarate because no one knows who he is.
flaw [2d\]: ply you should use your brain solution:S
kryft [1k?\]: How old is Andy?
Arhiman [2k\]: young
szaloony [5k\]: have you notice sdf pattern is much more popular than qwe pattern for flooding?
jleone [5k\]: hi, what is he doing in real life, Andy ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of the USGO1 game (without ads) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Daoloth [-\]: pincer
eggedr [7k?\]: andy liu is 18 I believe
CodeBreak [1k\]: tartare's identity is known already
mcw85 [7k\]: No, it is not.
CodeBreak [1k\]: it is:D
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
xedover [5k?\]: its not
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he knows it
rikiyu [1k\]: tartrate is actually Young Hoon
mcw85 [7k\]: It is rumored...
xedover [5k?\]: hehe
CodeBreak [1k\]: lol....admins have confirmed it
mcw85 [7k\]: LOL, no.
CodeBreak [1k\]: lol
GoGetta [-\]: Does it matter?
BenSenTen [?\]: if b defeated this time, ply would never recovered...
amadis [?\]: myungwan is rocking that rocking tesuji
mcw85 [7k\]: To pincer or not to pincer.
BenSenTen [?\]: to win or not to win...
lokki [3d\]: so is this the final match ?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
Daoloth [-\]: r10
mcw85 [7k\]: One more round on Saturday.
lokki [3d\]: oh ic
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO: Is the final round of NAIM today or tomorrow?
BenSenTen [?\]: final on saturday?
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;B[qh]C[bobstep [2k?\]: bbw only undefeated player?
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, final tomorrow.
mcw85 [7k\]: The US Open final is Saturday.
GoGetta [-\]: Finally =)
pink9j: bobstep: check out http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
mcw85 [7k\]: There are several undefeated in this tourney,
USGO1 [-\]: Several undefeated in Open.
mcw85 [7k\]: Only two in NAIM.
just9x9 [-\]: hehe this is bbw vs tartrate
xedover [5k?\]: both Kim and Liu are undefeated up to this round
lokki [3d\]: bbw kill 9p yesterday
BenSenTen [?\]: who was that?
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO: Is the final round of the NAIM today or tomorrow? Sorry if "Saturday" answered this question, too.
BenSenTen [?\]: fungyun?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yeah.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it looks to me as if the cam quality get better every day at the US channel
Twiddler [4d\]: feng yun only 9p in u.s. open i think
USGO1 [-\]: Saturday is tomorrow. Final round.
xedover [5k?\]: final round of NAIM will be tonight
mcw85 [7k\]: Okay, thanks.
mcw85 [7k\]: o_O
MssrBlanc [3k\]: feng yun doesn't play in the open
MssrBlanc [3k\]: she's in the NAIM
just9x9 [-\]: p16 ;)
Twiddler [4d\]: then andy probably beat her in NAIM
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry mcw, I misread the question.
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;W[op]C[USGO1 [-\]: Yes, as people have said, final round of NAIM tonight.
mcw85 [7k\]: If the lens was shaded, I think quality would be higher. No problem, USGO, you're doing a million things at once.
BenSenTen [?\]: where should b's move?
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;B[pf]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: q8 maybe?
TeeSushi [3d\]: maybe not ^^
GoGetta [-\]: q6 ?
norg [3k\]: Tartrate's opening is looking stronger so far...
MssrBlanc [3k\]: I have a hard time thinking this is even
mcw85 [7k\]: ... /sigh
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry, can't do anything about the webcam.
norg [3k\]: But then, I suppose he's had 25% more moves...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: webcam is great
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: dont worry
MilanChe [2k?\]: be hippie
bobstep [2k?\]: thx pink9j
IGoofy [1d\]: great ? i cannot see the white stones
gumcolem [?\]: he looks hippie enough as it is.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can see the players!
MilanChe [2k?\]: lol
BenSenTen [?\]: w is slow so far...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: look at KGS for the board
mcw85 [7k\]: The webcam is great, but the overexposure makes it hard to see white stones, that's all, not really important because of KGS, though.
yMkA [4k?\]: :D
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;W[eq]C[USGO1 [-\]:  from the Computer Go room...  On Friday August 7th, Many Faces of Go will play against Myungwan 8p, starting at 15:00 EDT. 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
AndreasM [10k?\]: cam is great
mcw85 [7k\]: Is this realted to Mogo?
XY0908 [-\]: jleone, Andy is a student going to college next year.
mcw85 [7k\]: related*
USGO1 [-\]: Official video link: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
MoussDiouf [11k\]: r14 dead ?
XY0908 [-\]: He went to senior prom in June, in fact.
wornof [1d\]: MoussDiouf: There are still many possibilities for R14, but white does not want to commit to any yet
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;B[hp]C[MoussDiouf [11k\]: k
wornof [1d\]: It would still be a big move for black to play again and kill R14 even more
Daoloth [-\]: only americans know what those words mean, xy
wornof [1d\]: But slow
norg [3k\]: Wouldn't adding 1 more move still leave behind a certain amount of aji as well?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i really enjoyed whites game yesterday
XY0908 [-\]: Same here.
USGO1 [-\]: In the Ing EuroGoTV1?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yeah, I couldn't watch it live, but I reviewed it... very nicce.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
AndreasM [10k?\]: yeah as far as i could understand it ;)
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun and Jie Li and some of the stronger players sat down and discussed it for about an hour.
mcw85 [7k\]: That would have been great to listen to.
USGO1 [-\]: Only if you spoke Chinese.
mcw85 [7k\]: :-/
XY0908 [-\]: Who are the players further away in the back on TV?
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;W[en]C[USGO1 [-\]: Sorry for the misclick. 
Asaliuru [19k\]: Who win on first table on ECG ?? Catalin ?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yeah.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
stalkor [3k\]: yeah were really mad about that usgo1 ^^
Asaliuru [19k\]: ty
USGO1 [-\]: Don't know players on other boards.
kuikentje [1d\]: catalin won, but it wasnt the first board
mcw85 [7k\]: How was the game EGTV? I wasn't able to see it.
GoGetta [-\]: I always forget that joseki 
IGoofy [1d\]: europeans are so weak they lose to each other
amadis [?\]: i would like to hear more analysis of the feng yun - andy liu game, seeing as the pro analysis yesterday ended with the pro saying that andy had no chance to win!
AndreasM [10k?\]: ban
AndreasM [10k?\]: ;)
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;W[jq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: early in the game Dinerchtein lost a big group and although he tried everything he could not overcome it
stalkor [3k\]: euro, does that mean catalin is back in the race for european champion?
kuikentje [1d\]: it means he will probably get the title
kuikentje [1d\]: only one round left to play
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, he is a point ahead of the other eurpean challengers
XY0908 [-\]: No Koreans left?
BenSenTen [?\]: 2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, Kim Eunkuk 7d is a point ahead of Catalin
AndreasM [10k?\]: ahead?
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;B[dq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
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;W[do]C[stalkor [3k\]: xy, european championships are open but the best european player gets awarded the title european champion, not tournament winner:)
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;B[co]C[IGoofy [1d\]: one point is not much with 8 komi
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but Europeans are doing great this year
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;W[dr]
;B[cr]C[XY0908 [-\]: stalkor, are you pulling my legs or for real?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: we are on the rise^^
Komachi [3k\]: USGO1, what is the komi in this game, please?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: real
USGO1 [-\]: 7.5 komi
gumcolem [?\]: Options -> Rules
Komachi [3k\]: Thank you.
AndreasM [10k?\]: goofy is goofing around
XY0908 [-\]: So there are separate title for Europeans only?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: When was the last time the european champ actually won the tourney?
XY0908 [-\]: How do you justify 'European'? Citizenship?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i didnt play go when that happened
MatchFree [-\]: i dont like this result for white here
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;W[gm]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
stalkor [3k\]: guo yuan was european champion for a while i thought
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Europeans are people with a passport of a country that is a member of the EGF
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so Israelian people are also Europeans in this system
mcw85 [7k\]: Russians are europeans.
BenSenTen [?\]: w is fast suddenly
TomGo [1k\]: rob van zeijst won undefeated, ~12 years ago
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of the USGO1 game (without ads) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
BenSenTen [?\]: russians never consider themselves european
TomGo [1k\]: no???
Yippie [2d\]: huh?
AndreasM [10k?\]: think they do
hfdtd [1d\]: Alexandr Dinerchtein won in 2005
TomGo [1k\]: moscow clearly european metropolis
Albatros [5k\]: under what user name did catalins game run in kgs?
stalkor [3k\]: not true tomgo
mcw85 [7k\]: EuroGoTV1
XY0908 [-\]: I like W's position now.
Albatros [5k\]: thx
AndreasM [10k?\]: wellt that´s wrong tom
TomGo [1k\]: is it?
USGO1 [-\]: Stalkor: Guo Juan resides in the Netherlands now.
AndreasM [10k?\]: i think so
TomGo [1k\]: thouht in poland
stalkor [3k\]: i know usgo, i live in the netherlands too
amadis [?\]: thank you for saying something about the game, xy!
USGO1 [-\]: http://gobase.org/information/players/?pp=Guo%20Juan
Icare [1d\]: b is going to treat H4 stone lightly
stalkor [3k\]: i wonder if b can treat it lightly
USGO1 [-\]: So any guesses as to where to play now?
Icare [1d\]: i would say he can
amadis [?\]: isn't it peculiar that the upper right was left like that?
Icare [1d\]: F17 or so
BenSenTen [?\]: but he will not
sjoerdm [11k\]: how come a 7d is playing an 8p with no handi?
IGoofy [1d\]: the next move is standard play
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;B[er]C[stalkor [3k\]: this is sente, its pretty good
lokki [3d\]: yes i was thinking this move is next
BenSenTen [?\]: e2 is k move, always atari first
USGO1 [-\]: Top boards in U.S. Open (and most tournaments in U.S.) no handicap.
lokki [3d\]: good sente
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;W[pe]C[sjoerdm [11k\]: cool, thx
lokki [3d\]: wat b no answer
amadis [?\]: sjoerdm - this 7d beat a 9p yesterday
stalkor [3k\]: w thinks this is not important
baned4life: how old is bigbadwolf?
OsoAgonar [-\]: where can i find the tournnament results?
XY0908 [-\]: Now, I really like Andy's style.
gorilla02 [1k\]: what is it?
appleseeds [?\]: baned4life, andy is 18
BenSenTen [?\]: playing strange moves
xedover [5k?\]: Open Results    http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
stalkor [3k\]: b has a slight problem now i think
amadis [?\]: he's not intimidated that's for sure
XY0908 [-\]: baned4life, he is a senior in high school now.
JaslierSan [9k\]: Kim pro korrien?
OsoAgonar [-\]: thanks xedove
nuBO [2k\]: ыефтвфке
amadis [?\]: where's he going to college?
XY0908 [-\]: NYU Stern
amadis [?\]: aha
XY0908 [-\]: Jaslier: Yes, Mr. Kim is Korean.
mcw85 [7k\]: Kim is korean pro.
amadis [?\]: didn't know you could go there as an undergrad
IGoofy [1d\]: w going to school ? thought an 18yo can already read and write
XY0908 [-\]: And I believe he resides in the US now.
amadis [?\]: i'm glad new york will hold onto him for a while!
XY0908 [-\]: So am I, Andy.
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;W[oe]
;B[of]C[stalkor [3k\]: on that side?
anapazapa [2d\]: i didnt expect r15
magners [2k\]: it would be nice to have an amateur team match, europe against us
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;W[qd]
;B[re]C[Yippie [2d\]: so this game is basically for the tournament, right?
Twiddler [4d\]: yes for the u.s.  open
Yippie [2d\]: well for total victory I mean
freddygo [5k\]: has myung-wan kim lost before?
OsoAgonar [-\]: its only 6 rounds?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
mcw85 [7k\]: 6 rounds yes.
OsoAgonar [-\]: so many players 
OsoAgonar [-\]: probably it will be many players with 6-0 record
USGO1 [-\]: Broken into bands of course.
OsoAgonar [-\]: :S:S
AurelienC [3d\]: o15 
freddygo [5k\]: they still have a match each tomorrow, so today doesnt decide the outcome, right
stalkor [3k\]: i guess b is aiming around P6
Yippie [2d\]: but the two top players, both undefeated...
AndreasM [10k?\]: someone told me the european go congress is the biggest in the world is that right?
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
stalkor [3k\]: asia has bigger tournaments, ppl wise. dunno about the length
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;W[nf]C[alrobin [10k\]: European tourney bigger too
BenSenTen [?\]: not asian, japanese, chniese or korean?
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;B[qc]
;W[mg]
;B[nh]
;W[mh]
;B[ni]
;W[mi]C[Toge [1k\]: Who won Catalin Tanaru vs. Alexander Dinerchtein game?
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;B[nj]C[magners [2k\]: taranu
rikiyu [1k\]: Cat
Yippie [2d\]: wow *_*
expat [4d?\]: catalin
Meepy [-\]: oof, giving up too much territory
baned4life: white already lost
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;W[pn]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: pro plays like that... 
Akamaru [1k\]: how so?
Yippie [2d\]: q6 is nive
Cassis0 [5d\]: pros* 
baned4life: no they dont
Yippie [2d\]: nice
USGO1 [-\]: That has been said before by stronger players.
freddygo [5k\]: weak players care too much for territory
GoGetta [-\]: After this round there is going to be 13 players in the 6th round?
AndreasM [10k?\]: yesterday everyone thoght he had lost too and he didn´t
Twiddler [4d\]: pros care a lot about territory too freddy :)
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;B[qm]C[BenSenTen [?\]: baned... must be korean
XY0908 [-\]: baned4life, if you are here to troll for any reason, I suggest you to leave.
mcw85 [7k\]: Must be troll.
dongsaeng [2d\]: tessoyo~
Akamaru [1k\]: q8
Arhiman [2k\]: black seems overconcentrated
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i have to go; cu all later
BenSenTen [?\]: while w r too far apart
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of the USGO1 game (without ads) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
mcw85 [7k\]: Bye EGTV1.
XY0908 [-\]: Bye.
Twiddler [4d\]: goodbye eurogo :)
Yippie [2d\]: w went for a walk
AyoLogie: what ws the result yesterday for andy ?
BenSenTen [?\]: bye
mcw85 [7k\]: He won.
Yippie [2d\]: ESCAPER (!)
xedover [5k?\]: Andy is undefeated
AyoLogie: really ??
ajistorm [1d\]: b seems to lead huge
AyoLogie: so nice
Xyro [20k?\]: both of them, still
xedover [5k?\]: is both events
xedover [5k?\]: *in
USGO1 [-\]: Open results:http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
choboco [1k\]: you call this huge lead?
DrH0use [2d\]: it was bigbadwolf  who won the kgs ama best player tourament?
Rocker [4d\]: w lost by 7.5 by now i recommend he should resign 
USGO1 [-\]: Ing Results: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
GoGetta [-\]: How would they decide the winner?
Yippie [2d\]: things to do in real life #819: Escape from a go game
Twiddler [4d\]: i thought bbw lost in final round to bin7674?
DrH0use [2d\]: sure?
ajistorm [1d\]: yes i think lead is quite big
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;W[pm]C[Xyro [20k?\]: rocker are you speak about this game?
choboco [1k\]: didnt know 1d can misjudge like that
Yippie [2d\]: b got alot of points
Yippie [2d\]: w is open'
Yippie [2d\]: I like b
ajistorm [1d\]: yes
choboco [1k\]: you like blanc?
choboco [1k\]: cool
GoIsBoring [1d\]: can they hear us?
ajistorm [1d\]: black
Twiddler [4d\]: no
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;B[ql]C[choboco [1k\]: yes, they are jesus and hear all of us all the time
GoIsBoring [1d\]: go bbw!
anapazapa [2d\]: jesusses
evanj [2d\]: Did someone say that w beat Feng last night?!
USGO1 [-\]: Yes
huggy [3k\]: if you shout really load they will hear you
evanj [2d\]: wow
choboco [1k\]: he did i saw it
Direct [4k\]: i like comment il jou black and toi ?
ajistorm [1d\]: who is bbw ? b or w ?
evanj [2d\]: I just saw the first half of that game
mcw85 [7k\]: BBW i s W
Twiddler [4d\]: w
GoIsBoring [1d\]: w is bbw
Yippie [2d\]: but feng got greedy that game
choboco [1k\]: feng had a big lead but a huuge group died to her AND she was in byo when andy had like 20 min left
Cassis0 [5d\]: j16
Zzzzz604 [17k?\]: Tuna Fish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
evanj [2d\]: who was relaying that game -- where can I find the record?
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO1
evanj [2d\]: thx
ajistorm [1d\]: bbw very strong but apparently not enough for 8p
IGoofy [1d\]: bbw beats woman
Direct [4k\]: i am 4k pro
Yippie [2d\]: *_*
Arhiman [2k\]: white is ok
Yippie [2d\]: how much money do you make a year mr 4kyu
CodeBreak [1k\]: 4k
choboco [1k\]: (with go) you should add
BenSenTen [?\]: never heard of 4k pro??
Direct [4k\]: xD
Yippie [2d\]: could work for a beginner go club or something
choboco [1k\]: yea, i even ehard that bensenten is [?\] pro
choboco [1k\]: the new level
ajistorm [1d\]: then i'm a 1d pro ^^
IGoofy [1d\]: i sold him a pro diploma for 100$
BenSenTen [?\]: :)
Direct [4k\]: wow ^^
AetherSoul [13k\]: lol 4k pro
choboco [1k\]: igoofy may i buy one aswell?=
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
choboco [1k\]: yay
GoGetta [-\]: f2 Now?
SallyGross [18k?\]: WHERE CAN ONE GET A PROFESSIONAL AMATEUR CERTIFICATE?
AetherSoul [13k\]: are they really taking this long, or why isn't anything changing?
IGoofy [1d\]: ask your friends and i can make special offer
Arhiman [2k\]: pls don't shout
baned4life: taiwan
choboco [1k\]: they got 2 hours each
Rocker [4d\]: j5 is the next move for sure
choboco [1k\]: would be a shame if they didnt use them
mcw85 [7k\]: Stop trolling. Keep convo game related, please?
SallyGross [18k?\]: Sorry -- didn't realise caps-lock was on.
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;W[gc]C[stalkor [3k\]: white did something wrong with Q6 i think
Twiddler [4d\]: this is being played live with 2 hours each main time aether soul.  serious tournaments are usually p layed slowly  by the players :)
AetherSoul [13k\]: alright
AetherSoul [13k\]: thanks
Arhiman [2k\]: 2 hours each is fast
choboco [1k\]: rocker this reminds me of yesterday when your "d10 is the only move" failed xD
Rocker [4d\]: THIS MOVE IS quite AMATEURISTIC
freddygo [5k\]: why is it amateur?
OsoAgonar [-\]: you are an amateur
Yippie [2d\]: rocker i quite amateuristic
Yippie [2d\]: is
IGoofy [1d\]: they already played this game last month. this is a relay for the holy kgs crowd
choboco [1k\]: thats why he can tell
Arhiman [2k\]: only pro can say what is amateuristic or not
BaldEagle [2k\]: sorry for off topic, but I just checked out BBW game against Feng, how could bbw win ?
Twiddler [4d\]: please stop feeding the rocker troll :)
choboco [1k\]: bbw won because whole top elft b died
choboco [1k\]: against feng
magners [2k\]: rocker is not a troll, he's just on a roll
OsoAgonar [-\]: i love people who think they are better than the bests :D
Arhiman [2k\]: bbw won because he is strong
choboco [1k\]: she was a bit careless and he saw his chance
Rocker [4d\]: H16 COMING for sho
IGoofy [1d\]: rock n troll
ramborocky [8k\]: live broadcast?
anapazapa [2d\]: rocker is a good troll. there are good trolls yaknow
BaldEagle [2k\]: oh wait I mis-saw the name sorry =(
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Yippie [2d\]: 'best' is subjective
holycarp [-\]: captured stones counted in aga rules?
choboco [1k\]: h16 is kyu move
OsoAgonar [-\]: low kyu move
ramborocky [8k\]: thx
mcw85 [7k\]: Captured stones always count.
BenSenTen [?\]: g17 also k move
ajistorm [1d\]: h16 is not kyu, it's good
AetherSoul [13k\]: ...if this game is already over, why is it taking so long?
OsoAgonar [-\]: its vulgar
jSd [8k\]: url pls
BenSenTen [?\]: h16 is 31k move
evanj [2d\]: maybe too deep
jSd [8k\]: live$
Arhiman [2k\]: this game is not over
Rocker [4d\]: u will see who is real low
Yippie [2d\]: it is being played as we speak
freddygo [5k\]: if b j17, what is w's best move?
OsoAgonar [-\]: get strong at invading --- > H16
mcw85 [7k\]: I just gave the URL.
Yippie [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
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;B[lf]C[Twiddler [4d\]: h16 is common reduction move but seems it would be tough for b because of white's thickness
OsoAgonar [-\]: for that pros never play it
choboco [1k\]: get strong at kibitz ----> "w is weak"
GoGetta [-\]: m14 ???
freddygo [5k\]: andy wants to kill
BenSenTen [?\]: m14 is really k-ish move
choboco [1k\]: m14 to create aji
choboco [1k\]: its an 8p move
Yippie [2d\]: w got a strong position though choboca
ajistorm [1d\]: none is weak, but w in trouble
BenSenTen [?\]: as a k, i would n14
GoGetta [-\]: M14 is asking to be killed
choboco [1k\]: maybe, hippy
evanj [2d\]: it's not about killed
evanj [2d\]: n14 would be painful
]
;W[ld]C[BenSenTen [?\]: then m16?
evanj [2d\]: m14 was excellent timing i think
Yippie [2d\]: one of these days I'm gonna spell your name 'chewbacca'
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
holycarp [-\]: g7 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
amadis [?\]: isn't m14 what they call a naked peep?
BenSenTen [?\]: wow...i think what bbw think
Yippie [2d\]: holycarp is a thief
holycarp [-\]: g7 losing move
freddygo [5k\]: i like andy's response, refuse to do what b wants
Arhiman [2k\]: you're mistaking with the "naked man" move
Twiddler [4d\]: maybe this is what b expected?
OsoAgonar [-\]: hahhahah
OsoAgonar [-\]: naked man move
OsoAgonar [-\]: hahahahhahah
OsoAgonar [-\]: ahahahhaha
mcw85 [7k\]: Oso, stop/
OsoAgonar [-\]: how i met your mother hahaha
holycarp [-\]: ....
GoGetta [-\]: =_=
holycarp [-\]: oso you need some pills
baned4life: has bigbadwolf ever managed to beat a pro player?
IGoofy [1d\]: no
Twiddler [4d\]: yes
Rocker [4d\]: cut!
Yippie [2d\]: posting links to advertising sites are like stealing because you try to make people money on other's work
lonsan [1k\]: never ever, especially not yesterday or the day before
cloud [2d\]: yeah, cut
bobstep [2k?\]: twice in this tournament
Rocker [4d\]: cut it out!
holycarp [-\]: omg im athief?
Twiddler [4d\]: is he facing mingjiu later for the NAIM?
BenSenTen [?\]: cut n die!!
Yippie [2d\]: yes
holycarp [-\]: like robin hood i hope
Rocker [4d\]: camon
elligain [9k\]: please usgo1, you can change the contrast settings of the camera ?
Rocker [4d\]: 8p shouldnt think this long against 7d
Yippie [2d\]: no you steal from people doing work for free and give money to google
xedover [5k?\]: he doesn't control the camera
GoGetta [-\]: I figured out blacks style
mcw85 [7k\]: He cannot.
baned4life: the camera is very poor
elligain [9k\]: thanks
holycarp [-\]: what do i steal baaaka
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry, can't change settings on webcam.
Yippie [2d\]: the stream
senbengo [5k\]: m15 ?
IGoofy [1d\]: all the pros had come together last night to discuss how to beat bbw
duha: can i count 30 pts for b right side and uR corner and 15 pts LL corner for b?
holycarp [-\]: baaaka the stream is not mine
HikaShin [-\]: rocker why not?
DrH0use [2d\]: you are not the best usgo i knew
Long88 [2d\]: what is this tournament
mcw85 [7k\]: Rocker is just a troll, ignore and it will go away.
USGO1 [-\]: All that really matters is what you see here anyway.
HikaShin [-\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: :)
Yippie [2d\]: ^_
anapazapa [2d\]: rocker is cool
AetherSoul [13k\]: this match that we're watching here is live?
Vibration [7k\]: contrast its not so bad
Rocker [4d\]: 85 u r too weak to say such things
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, it is live. http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
lonsan [1k\]: does kim look bored as usual?
USGO1 [-\]: The match is live. 
elligain [9k\]: we dont see anything....
Twiddler [4d\]: i hope andy can pull this game off :)
USGO1 [-\]: About 4 second delay on video feed is all.
huggy [3k\]: what about o17 for b?
holycarp [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US 
Rocker [4d\]: we r bored , not kim
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
duha: no us video?
holycarp [-\]: hehe im good boy now
cloud [2d\]: cut cut cut
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US (no ads)
USGO1 [-\]: Any other predictions for next move besides 017 and n14?
Yippie [2d\]: yes you are ^_^
Vibration [7k\]: its a url battle ??
DrH0use [2d\]: l16
Yippie [2d\]: one is free the other is ad-drivven
GoGetta [-\]: Im going go crazy ad say m10 
Yippie [2d\]: the work is done for free
IGoofy [1d\]: the next move is very common in this shape
]
;B[kd]
;W[lc]C[Rocker [4d\]: hey 017 is a real bad prediction ,
DrH0use [2d\]: hey im the winner :)
USGO1 [-\]: DrHouse gets it
huggy [3k\]: nice one house
BenSenTen [?\]: b o17 takes away some points , but the focus is on m14
DrH0use [2d\]: what did i win?
cloud [2d\]: how does house do it
Yippie [2d\]: honor
huggy [3k\]: clap on the shoulder
saligia [13k?\]: 1 more and you win keyring
USGO1 [-\]: The admiration of your peers DrH0use
DrH0use [2d\]: wooo thank !
Twiddler [4d\]: a fully restored 1967 Corvette of course
Long88 [2d\]: where can I find the US open result online?
lonsan [1k\]: of course
lonsan [1k\]: usgo.org
ajistorm [1d\]: b L17 ?
USGO1 [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
Rocker [4d\]: 8p is not too confident 
USGO1 [-\]: US Open results so far
]
;B[jf]C[SallyGross [18k?\]: Stupid question: will the kifu of these games be available?
xedover [5k?\]: you're looking at it now
Twiddler [4d\]: they will be saved on USGO1's account
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, look at the USGO accounts.
Rocker [4d\]: n14
Rocker [4d\]: comon
IGoofy [1d\]: the kifu will be deleted for security reason after the game
Twiddler [4d\]: right what mcw said, the acconts go up to 10 iirc
BenSenTen [?\]: b really wants to build a house here
USGO1 [-\]: All games are saved automatically and recorders back them up as well.
SallyGross [18k?\]: USGO1 to USGOn?
holycarp [-\]: 10-11
rium [4k\]: what's the name of bbw ? to find his games in this tournament 
ajistorm [1d\]: how do you know 8p not confident ?
SallyGross [18k?\]: Great.
Twiddler [4d\]: Andy Liu
rium [4k\]: ah
rium [4k\]: aah xD 
USGO1 [-\]: 3-4 boards in the Open and 8-9 in the Ing.
TeeSushi [3d\]: and the players should be able to remember the games pretty well
xedover [5k?\]: games are also availabe from the tournament results page: Open Results    http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
Yippie [2d\]: now b escaped *_*
GoGetta [-\]: How long has kim been pro?
ramborocky [8k\]: she look a bit different from her pic on KGS^^
BenSenTen [?\]: w n14, b j16...
Twiddler [4d\]: naw, that's just andy's girlfriend ;)
ramborocky [8k\]: oh...:/
ajistorm [1d\]: women always cheat with photos ^^
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe w should j16 now
wotan123 [2d\]: n14 without thinking
amadis [?\]: have these two played before?
Rocker [4d\]: play like kyus!! be raw and shallow ! but more fun!
USGO1 [-\]: Any other guesses? DrH0use?
TeeSushi [3d\]: white escaped
checkered: (:
freddygo [5k\]: n14 is too cowardly
Vashti [7k\]: eh, on what time count does this go now :-)
elligain [9k\]: yes.... w and b !
Yippie [2d\]: there's no players at the board *_*
freddygo [5k\]: he must put more pressure on black's group
wotan123 [2d\]: n14 is the move, no thinking about it necessary
dongsaeng [2d\]: l13 
huggy [3k\]: l17
Yippie [2d\]: n14 and b got exactly what he wanted
BenSenTen [?\]: j16
Twiddler [4d\]: was that a race for consolation prize back to their seats?
USGO1 [-\]: Move is already down. Any other guesses before I put it on the board?
GoGetta [-\]: n14 Is too simple
Arhiman [2k\]: m9
Twiddler [4d\]: it was a close call
wotan123 [2d\]: simple is good
Werfeus [5d\]: h14
calm [5k\]: ooh bigbadwolf vs tartrate!
quail [3k\]: d10
amadis [?\]: n14 such icky shape. i vote for k18
Komachi [3k\]: L 12?
lokki [3d\]: n14
]
;W[ke]C[MatchFree [-\]: l15 
GoGetta [-\]: BBW is too good for that
MatchFree [-\]: easy
Arhiman [2k\]: oh I tought it :(
SallyGross [18k?\]: wow!
Vashti [7k\]: oh, did bbw move and call back kim?
BenSenTen [?\]: P
BenSenTen [?\]: so k-ish move
Twiddler [4d\]: i think he raced kim back to seat to play right when he was seated
HighWisdom [14k\]: k15 force white atari, n14?
holycarp [-\]: k16 
HighWisdom [14k\]: if k16, k15..running
USGO1 [-\]: The more guesses, the greater likelihood one will be right.
BenSenTen [?\]: as a k, i would m15
holycarp [-\]: k16 is no good but m15 would be the best i think
huggy [3k\]: n10
]
;B[mj]C[GoGetta [-\]: I really hope black dies
huggy [3k\]: i was cheating
bobstep [2k?\]: only get a white screen when I go to video, what do I have to do?
evanj [2d\]: pray
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for being honest huggy.
patrickn [5k\]: for mojo
holycarp [-\]: play
mcw85 [7k\]: Need a flash plugin, bob.
mcw85 [7k\]: Do you use firefox?
bobstep [2k?\]: IE
evanj [2d\]: then you REALLY need to pray
BenSenTen [?\]: n14
Haven [9k?\]: xd
Yippie [2d\]: ok here's how you fix your problem
Rocker [4d\]: l11
tonyp [3d\]: I have to admit that N10 surprises me
Long88 [2d\]: how much time does both player have now?
]
;W[ki]C[Yippie [2d\]: google, chrome, download, install, use
mcw85 [7k\]: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
Rocker [4d\]: muhahaha!
evanj [2d\]: chrome? meh. firefox.
mcw85 [7k\]: Might help you.
USGO1 [-\]: Wow! one to Rocker.
Yippie [2d\]: firefox is slow
magners [2k\]: yippie, yep
tonyp [3d\]: just seems like w wants a stone here to better attack the B stones above
evanj [2d\]: not for me
harlej9 [2k\]: I like w
evanj [2d\]: anyway
evanj [2d\]: go, not web browsers
Rocker [4d\]: k15
evanj [2d\]: seems k15 more or less forced
tonyp [3d\]: k15 is bold
Arhiman [2k\]: l14
cloud [2d\]: m10
holycarp [-\]: is sow if you have a bunch of add ons
holycarp [-\]: slow
]
;B[je]C[wotan123 [2d\]: ...
Rocker [4d\]: mahahaha
wotan123 [2d\]: 2:0
MssrBlanc [3k\]: after we're done arguing about browsers, can we have a flamewar about mac-linux-windows?
USGO1 [-\]: evanj got that first I think.
]
;W[jd]C[Arhiman [2k\]: wow, this 8p play like a kgs4d...
wotan123 [2d\]: hihi
evanj [2d\]: no i didn't
bsaltman [3k\]: van someone put in live video url?
Twiddler [4d\]: this 8p could easily destroy any kgs 4d :)
Yippie [2d\]: I remember when I had DOS as main OS
norg [3k\]: Who is ahead?
wotan123 [2d\]: or the kgs 4d play like 8p
Haven [9k?\]: arhiman, im sure rocker would prefer "this kgs 4d plays like a 8p
norg [3k\]: I find it difficult to tell...
USGO1 [-\]: My mistake, Rocker got that one first too.
Rocker [4d\]: usgo u needs glasses 
TomGo [1k\]: and with 5 handi
Rocker [4d\]: ok
huggy [3k\]: now n14
holycarp [-\]: mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US  GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
evanj [2d\]: we should all support eurogotv, though, they do great stuff
Haven [9k?\]: do either of these guys play on kgs?
mcw85 [7k\]: Registration for EGTV takes a minute not even.
HighWisdom [14k\]: you have to suign in for it
mcw85 [7k\]: And you can watch without ads.
Arhiman [2k\]: m15 !
lokki [3d\]: d14
HighWisdom [14k\]: nevermind, mistake
IGoofy [1d\]: without ads is boring
choboco [1k\]: andy is such a cutie
MrCactu5 [5k\]: i guess J16 is not an option
AetherSoul [13k\]: USGO1, is that you right next to them on the live feed?
Arhiman [2k\]: j11 is a move too
evanj [2d\]: j16 is an option
USGO1 [-\]: Yes Aethersoul
choboco [1k\]: wah USGO1 was drinking something!
evanj [2d\]: bourbon
Twiddler [4d\]: moonshine
evanj [2d\]: not easy to put up with us this early in the morning
baned4life: I would just play n14 right now
afdasfasdf: what's next move
Rocker [4d\]: n14
Arhiman [2k\]: n14 maybe
t0Strong4u [1d\]: n14 
Yippie [2d\]: b just got heacy it seems to me
Yippie [2d\]: heavy
evanj [2d\]: heacy?
evanj [2d\]: oh
Werfeus [5d\]: gotta think about n14 first.. then do it anyway
evanj [2d\]: i don't like n14
afdasfasdf: n14 don't work
evanj [2d\]: which means it is probably right
choboco [1k\]: tenuki
choboco [1k\]: c14
choboco [1k\]: f3
Isobeutel [2d?\]: k
choboco [1k\]: whatever, just tenuki
Werfeus [5d\]: hokay
Yippie [2d\]: n14 is coming
Long88 [2d\]: b is too territorial, now white control the center
Long88 [2d\]: bad for b
IGoofy [1d\]: hasnt usgo had short hair when the game started ?
wotan123 [2d\]: but to say tenuki is gives only a half point
holycarp [-\]: n14 risky
afdasfasdf: how about J16?
Haven [9k?\]: usgo1 the same person who got totally pwned by the rengo game last night?
Twiddler [4d\]: Andy probably thinking, "come ooooooon i wanna kill something :("
Haven [9k?\]: that was hillarious
evanj [2d\]: what happened?
choboco [1k\]: andy just killed l16
Rocker [4d\]: m10!!!?
choboco [1k\]: enough kill for 1 game
norg [3k\]: Myungwan takes his time...
t0Strong4u [1d\]: whats the link for the live feed?
Twiddler [4d\]: he wants more of course, once you get that small taste of blood you want it all :)
choboco [1k\]: xD
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
choboco [1k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
t0Strong4u [1d\]: k thnks guys
AetherSoul [13k\]: b skinny as a stick.. lol
holycarp [-\]: l14
t0Strong4u [1d\]: both are 4-0?
Twiddler [4d\]: can we get a time update?
Rocker [4d\]: 8p thinks too long i thought they can see the future of this kind of fights too easily! i m dissapointed!
Twiddler [4d\]: yes t0strong
Yippie [2d\]: he is counting *_^
IGoofy [1d\]: or sleeping
norg [3k\]: tartrate is foxed!
evanj [2d\]: can't believe w beat feung
evanj [2d\]: er, feng
wotan123 [2d\]: it needs some time to evaluate all possibilities
expat [4d?\]: he might be reading 40 moves ahead
holycarp [-\]: its not sure that he was tartrate
donGoku [4k\]: j16
choboco [1k\]: reading 40 moves ahead is not that ahrd, but not making a mistake/bad move in your mind is the problem
Yippie [2d\]: if he was he'd be getting rich wiht students
choboco [1k\]: when i read 10 moves ahead i usually make a bad move at 4 or 5
Yippie [2d\]: then don't read 
choboco [1k\]: yea, i startet playing more blitz ;)
XY0908 [-\]: That's why I read only up to 2 moves.
Yippie [2d\]: just play the best moe in every govven situation
Twiddler [4d\]: i only read 1 move, i never have any clue what my opponent will play :)
IGoofy [1d\]: when i read 10 moves back i see 4 or 5 mistakes
choboco [1k\]: cant see the best move without reading though
ThiGar [8k\]: with all the branches!?
choboco [1k\]: because a move leads to a sequence and iam looking for best sequence not best move
Haven [9k?\]: same thing
norg [3k\]: How are they for time?
Rocker [4d\]: all tournament should be 5 min+ 5 30 secs byoyomis
Yippie [2d\]: well, sequences are set
Arhiman [2k\]: blitz is evil
holycarp [-\]: if you want to not learn by playing ,blitz is the best
Twiddler [4d\]: or they should just be 10 minutes absolute like in the lightning tournament :)
evanj [2d\]: blitz is fine as long as you don't forget how to play slowly
Long88 [2d\]: b : 30 pairs, W :13 pairs plus potential
HighWisdom [14k\]: if the games were so short, it could feasibly be a one day event..much money lost on hotels and such
Long88 [2d\]: acutally W 16 pairs
Yippie [2d\]: playing slow is easy compared to blitz
Godaisuki [1k\]: black is thinking of the largest yose move
expat [4d?\]: +4 pairs komi 
MssrBlanc [3k\]: part of the point of congress is to have a long time devoted to go
sweety [-\]: Lee Hajin 3p from Korea will do a game commentary on baord 1! Please join USGO10's Demo!
MssrBlanc [3k\]: there's nothing like it for the rest of the year
Yippie [2d\]: all blitz does to you is making you better at spotting possibilities
Long88 [2d\]: black needs to make his black group safe
Arhiman [2k\]: how much time remaining for black ?
evanj [2d\]: it can also help to learn patterns, if you remember
Arhiman [2k\]: did bbw forget to hit his clock again ?
Rocker [4d\]: it can last still 2 hours with 5 + 5 30secs byoymis which is pretty long for any sport game viewing
bistrogo [3d\]: USGO1 the video is too bright, can you fix it?
donGoku [4k\]: Long 88,what means 16 "pairs"?
evanj [2d\]: no he can't, bistro
USGO1 [-\]: No, sorry.
bistrogo [3d\]: ok thx
]
;B[gd]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: is this the finals?
Haven [9k?\]: why can't we get a legit hanging camera?
evanj [2d\]: oof
Haven [9k?\]: this angle is impossible :(
evanj [2d\]: well, guess n14 wasn't good
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
t0Strong4u [1d\]: who predicted this
wotan123 [2d\]: no point for nobody
USGO1 [-\]: I don't think anyone did. If so I missed it.
choboco [1k\]: i said tenuki, guess thats the closest xD
Rocker [4d\]: f17
evanj [2d\]: that ain't no tenuki buddy
evanj [2d\]: nice try
donGoku [4k\]: somebody please say to me what "pairs in this situation or in Go means?
Tulkas [12k\]: you can see the player right and the board id here on kgs so the cam is just fine....
wotan123 [2d\]: but its not tenuki
Arhiman [2k\]: wow, pro move !
expat [4d?\]: dongoku it's quicker to count in pairs of points
meuns [2k\]: I like kim moves
tonyp [3d\]: j16 has to be somewhat tempting
donGoku [4k\]: thx,great idea!:)
TomPioter [10k\]: time left??
Rocker [4d\]: i rather feel g16 demonstrates b's dilema here 
choboco [1k\]: i want andy to win
choboco [1k\]: hes cute
]
;W[fc]C[Haven [9k?\]: everybody wants andy to win
Long88 [2d\]: are u a girl choboco
Haven [9k?\]: because hes awesome
choboco [1k\]: nope
huggy [3k\]: no
dfgd: no
huggy [3k\]: i want kim to win
Rocker [4d\]: i got 3 moves   
norg [3k\]: Isn't f17 a bit passive?
choboco [1k\]: f17 builds alot of strengh
checkered: almost everyone here wants andy to win...
Rocker [4d\]: i got the most correct!
choboco [1k\]: i still say tenuki is always the best guess
Haven [9k?\]: lol
wotan123 [2d\]: but one mistake is often enough
evanj [2d\]: everyone wants ama to beat pro
TomPioter [10k\]: how much time left
USGO1 [-\]: 1:22 for white and 1:05 for black.
Long88 [2d\]: USGo can you tell us what is the actual clock for both players now
evanj [2d\]: it gives us all hope :P
donGoku [4k\]: i want sensation:ama player won against 8d pro,thats what i want to see^^
TomPioter [10k\]: ty
Rocker [4d\]: j16
golgo13 [12k\]: is andy kgs regular?
t0Strong4u [1d\]: j16 ?
kryft [1k?\]: golgo13, Yes.
Lovepove [7k\]: golgo andy is the bigbadwolf
babyface [1d\]: l17 now
xedover [5k?\]: Long, as you can see from the video, usgo1 can't see the clock for both players
Tulkas [12k\]: well amdy beaten so many pros he could be pro without question
]
;B[id]C[choboco [1k\]: he doesnt look big or bad though
]
;W[kc]C[Tulkas [12k\]: andy
choboco [1k\]: and not like a wolf
wotan123 [2d\]: point for rocker
Long88 [2d\]: enough homo
evanj [2d\]: nice shape for b
MssrBlanc [3k\]: he's in sheeps clothing
norg [3k\]: Who is ahead?
Hoyuk [12k\]: beware ^^
xedover [5k?\]: they've been playing for about 1 1/2 hours in a 4+ hour game, so there's lots of time left
choboco [1k\]: noone ahed
Tygress [1d\]: Green is
MssrBlanc [3k\]: *ahem* long88? 
checkered: haha nice one
donGoku [4k\]: i said j16 before pro g16 first!:)
soulspirit [3k?\]: n14
anapazapa [2d\]: h17 nihil aliud
Rocker [4d\]: j17
choboco [1k\]: n14 now is no good
meuns [2k\]: Budy !
soulspirit [3k?\]: where's the live stream
choboco [1k\]: bad timing
Long88 [2d\]: it's best to make shape at H15
soulspirit [3k?\]: liev streaming where?
Rocker [4d\]: hi dude
soulspirit [3k?\]: live*
golgo13 [12k\]: why did B play G16 first?
choboco [1k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
soulspirit [3k?\]: where's the live streaming
soulspirit [3k?\]: thx
anapazapa [2d\]: or l14 maybe
USGO1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Machida [5k\]: c14
Rocker [4d\]: j17 for the pride of 8p!
USGO1 [-\]: No ads for Eurogo
UFGS [3d\]: If w can deal w his shape he chance.
GTX [7k\]: d14 ?
Disanidi [10k\]: Which person is andy in the stream?
Hoyuk [12k\]: right
meuns [2k\]: i don't understand you UFGS
UFGS [3d\]: I think b is better
BenSenTen [?\]: if w can j17 now, w is in good shape
Tulkas [12k\]: the one who has not the black stones...
UFGS [3d\]: but w has potential shape
meuns [2k\]: ok
choboco [1k\]: kim is kicking the ground all the time
BenSenTen [?\]: he is full of energy
choboco [1k\]: bow kim is going back and forth
Lovepove [7k\]: Myung-wan would probably be a good poker player, his stoneface is amazing : o
JeanVidToi [6k\]: j17 ?
Long88 [2d\]: h15 solid
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;B[ff]C[choboco [1k\]: good at poker means 50% being lucky^^
fadsfjaoi: l14 solid
Rocker [4d\]: !
XY0908 [-\]: On the review of this game, we cannot even ask questions...
meuns [2k\]: no luck in pocker, just probabilities
keslanopfa [3k\]: how much time do they have left?
YukiStone [2k\]: that is because people were acting 3 yrs old as usual
afdasfasdf: w left side swollowing
Arroc [6k\]: KGS kibitz is rarely worth anything.
checkered: texas catch em is more skillage than poker. ^_^
Hoyuk [12k\]: nice
UFGS [3d\]: If w can gain point while attacking B, then w has chance.
USGO1 [-\]: About 2 minuts ago it was 1:22 for white and 1:05 for black, keslanopfa.
Rocker [4d\]: j17!!
meuns [2k\]: d14 ?
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks, USGO.
keslanopfa [3k\]: thx
choboco [1k\]: andy always fast
BenSenTen [?\]: if w kill this group, w will win
meuns [2k\]: tartrate can't die
choboco [1k\]: and if b kills whole bottom b wins
ViperDee [4k\]: they killed all dodo s
Disanidi [10k\]: Pro looks impatient. 
Rocker [4d\]: ok d14 more normal
golgo13 [12k\]: I hope pro kibitz start soon... much explaining to do....
norg [3k\]: d14 seems big?
choboco [1k\]: pro is reviewing game right now at USGO10
lordofbird: usgo10
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;W[fd]C[ViperDee [4k\]: oke
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
choboco [1k\]: f2 huge or illusion? for w
meuns [2k\]: illusion ^^
BenSenTen [?\]: f16 better than j17...
norg [3k\]: Wouldn't f2 be gote if w wanted to get something out of it?
ViperDee [4k\]: maybe both
choboco [1k\]: yes, but huge gote
ViperDee [4k\]: huge and an allusion
sutex [4k\]: Kim is 8p??? real or honor??
norg [3k\]: Real
meuns [2k\]: h4 can escape
choboco [1k\]: f2 d1 f3  and then h4 trouble in big moyo
Goury [2k\]: Real deal
norg [3k\]: More importantly, he is tartrate ;)
BenSenTen [?\]: honor only for old man
ViperDee [4k\]: i
Rocker [4d\]: f15
choboco [1k\]: if b plays f3 moyo gone and b got more territory
Long88 [2d\]: i think if Lee sedol is here then it will be scary
schwing [1k\]: who is this tartrate, everyone is talking about?
BenSenTen [?\]: he will kill b n w?
norg [3k\]: If Lee sedol were here, Andy would beat him like he is beating everyone else :P
DerWitt [2d?\]: noone knows
sutex [4k\]: hmm.interesting, what is a pro doing on such a tour???
sutex [4k\]: isnt 7d amatuer like 1p??
ViperDee [4k\]: making money
keslanopfa [3k\]: how do you know that black is tartrate
DerWitt [2d?\]: did andy win the game against the pro yesterday?
ViperDee [4k\]: and fun
sutex [4k\]: or how does it work?
norg [3k\]: Dinerchtein says so.
Werfeus [5d\]: andy is 4-0
mcw85 [7k\]: Der: He doesn't. He is insisting internet speculation is fact.
DerWitt [2d?\]: wow
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;B[kh]C[DerWitt [2d?\]: how old is he?
Wizzos [2k\]: he beat feng by 11
DerWitt [2d?\]: awsome
choboco [1k\]: he beat feng by feng messing up
mcw85 [7k\]: Dinerstein *guessed* Myung-Wan was tratrate.
Rocker [4d\]: hmm?
Goury [2k\]: Tartrate is a famous KGS player who has only one lose and beated many many high dans.
Goury [2k\]: in the old days
choboco [1k\]: feng already won and then did a huge "lets die 1/4 board group" move
SallyGross [18k?\]: Symmetric structure to the earlier triangle b set up.
BenSenTen [?\]: only 1 lose in his life?
Rocker [4d\]: tartrate is chochikun
Wizzos [2k\]: it was a ko chocobo, don't think she could defend all
choboco [1k\]: i was tartrate and now focus on andys go!
Hoyuk [12k\]: go seigen
Long88 [2d\]: sigh enough of this Sai Complex
Goury [2k\]: his identity was unknown, until dinnerschtein speculated that he is Myung Wan Kim
Long88 [2d\]: b sabaki real well, w is behing by 10 points
choboco [1k\]: dinnerschchchtein ;)
Goury [2k\]: oh right :)
Goury [2k\]: hard to spell correctly :)
norg [3k\]: Then Dr Straw agreed with him :P
SallyGross [18k?\]: If Dinerschtein merely speculated, tartrate's identity remains unknown
Goury [2k\]: well he has some certain evidents
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm anyway this game is very boring...
choboco [1k\]: Dinerchtein
mcw85 [7k\]: Then leave, Rocker.
choboco [1k\]: is his name
JeanVidToi [6k\]: somebody could ask Myung
choboco [1k\]: Alexandre Dinerchtein 
anapazapa [2d\]: what is sai?
BenSenTen [?\]: without us, it would be very boring
Rocker [4d\]: not on 7k's request
Hoyuk [12k\]: breakfast
Goury [2k\]: ok thanks choboco
choboco [1k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dinerchtein
choboco [1k\]: hes on wiki lol
Hoyuk [12k\]: are bbw on wiki?
UFGS [3d\]: amas are very strong.
BenSenTen [?\]: is l13 good now?
holycarp [-\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocobo
norg [3k\]: http://www.godiscussions.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8148&highlight=tartrate
choboco [1k\]: He has won the European Championship 6 times between 1999 and 2005.  lol at that^^
Werfeus [5d\]: k12
HandA [1k\]: choboco and chocobo not the same
choboco [1k\]: indeed
Rocker [4d\]: m11 comon
choboco [1k\]: chocobo was taken by some noob^^
xedover [5k?\]: but Dinerchtein's guess was based on false assumptions
Long88 [2d\]: this game is complex
UFGS [3d\]: B is trying to attack upper left..
cloud [2d\]: chocobo is way cooler though
Goury [2k\]: chocobo is like chocolate
mcw85 [7k\]: This isn't about the identity of tartrate. If you want to gossip, go to a hair salon, otherwise, please discuss the game.
UFGS [3d\]: after settling middle group
norg [3k\]: m10 
choboco [1k\]: upper elft cant be attacked
choboco [1k\]: its settled
norg [3k\]: d14 still looks quite large, actually
UFGS [3d\]: take away territory w has -- w upper left is huge
BenSenTen [?\]: it would be most entertaining if discussion n gossip come together
rydberg [2d\]: for laughs, here is an aiding link regarding famous goplayers: http://tinyurl.com/ncbdf3
Goury [2k\]: go hair salon? well that was rude. I hope you never do kibbitz again. 
Wizzos [2k\]: bbw reading yose
Long88 [2d\]: usually attachment, reply is extend in this case
Wizzos [2k\]: as usual after 50th move
Rocker [4d\]: sai was the most interesting player to watch for sure!
shusaku9p [4k\]: lol
UFGS [3d\]: b is forcing w to answer
choboco [1k\]: bbw not reading yose at all stop assuming he can do that
Long88 [2d\]: M10 is another possibilty
choboco [1k\]: hes just reading what to paly right now
BenSenTen [?\]: i like l13
Goury [2k\]: bbw is reading m10 continuation
Long88 [2d\]: but that make no impact on b
Karcusrd [7k\]: the guy in the red is
Rocker [4d\]: and go kart was a  very solid player too
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;W[ji]C[choboco [1k\]: and super marigo world was a great game
BenSenTen [?\]: solid n well built..
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Is this game being broadcast?  If so, may I get a link please?
norg [3k\]: I don't think anyone predicted that one ;)
Long88 [2d\]: hmmm, book move
danigabi [6d\]: andy has full chinese name? lol
Long88 [2d\]: i did
evanj [2d\]: welcome back rikaze
Goury [2k\]: oh k11 is cool idea
Long88 [2d\]: extend is usually the answer
BenSenTen [?\]: wow, k11 is nice
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Thanks evanj.  How's Kim looking today?
choboco [1k\]: hes in red
holycarp [-\]: go zhiyuan
holycarp [-\]: sound cooler
choboco [1k\]: and a bit untrained at his abs
choboco [1k\]: sould do situps
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Hehehe.
Long88 [2d\]: b cut at m11 is dangerous
Rocker [4d\]: h11
choboco [1k\]: b cut not that threatening since there is n14
rydberg [2d\]: judging from bbw's gamerecord, he wants b to play m11
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;B[li]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: why dont they get that glare out
]
;W[lh]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: nice cut
Long88 [2d\]: b settle no
danigabi [6d\]: sacrifice
Long88 [2d\]: w lost advantage
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;B[lj]C[evanj [2d\]: wheee
choboco [1k\]: q5 soon
Rocker [4d\]: k12
Long88 [2d\]: N14 is correct
evanj [2d\]: q5 absolutely not
xedover [5k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Long88 [2d\]: no choice
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;W[jh]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: Thanks Xedover.
danigabi [6d\]: feisty andy
Long88 [2d\]: oh no
Rocker [4d\]: muhaha
Long88 [2d\]: didn't think of that
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;B[kg]
;W[mf]C[evanj [2d\]: tight quarters here
danigabi [6d\]: H14
mcw85 [7k\]: Finally connects. :-)
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;B[hf]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: Isn't that how Kim likes it though?
holycarp [-\]: yes
holycarp [-\]: like vs andy lui
BenSenTen [?\]: 3 w stones r lonely
holycarp [-\]: eric
mcw85 [7k\]: You mean Eric Lui?
danigabi [6d\]: its 
Long88 [2d\]: b is still ahead by 10 points
danigabi [6d\]: Its ok. K11 ca connect with g7
danigabi [6d\]: nothing drastic should happen in this fight
Yippie [2d\]: 3 stones have a friens at g7
IamLucifer [1d\]: hi rocker:))
soulspirit [3k?\]: g11?
danigabi [6d\]: left is no land, c17 probably w, and black will connect h4 at F3
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;W[ic]C[Yippie [2d\]: long distance relationships works in go!
evanj [2d\]: ah, the old "hold the stone in midair and then retract it" ploy
USGO1 [-\]: Rocker happy now.
Rocker [4d\]: i feel k11 was supposed to be m10 , seeing this result
]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[hd]C[Rocker [4d\]: hi luci hehe 
holycarp [-\]: k9 next for b
]
;W[ib]C[danigabi [6d\]: G11
Long88 [2d\]: w lost it
JeanVidToi [6k\]: time for attack
soulspirit [3k?\]: d14?
danigabi [6d\]: this gote looks bad
Isobeutel [2d?\]: k
about4d: h11 looks good to me
Long88 [2d\]: still behind , plus lost sente
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
lokki [3d\]: g11 
Long88 [2d\]: L11 group is weak
BenSenTen [?\]: b really build a house here, at w's territory
USGO1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Erimies [4d\]: g11 looks fun
soulspirit [3k?\]: lol yea waste time making an account
Godaisuki [1k\]: resign =D
USGO1 [-\]: Eurogo has no ads.
UFGS [3d\]: I don't think that was good exchange for w
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;B[gi]C[evanj [2d\]: please support eurogo
danigabi [6d\]: im 8p
soulspirit [3k?\]: :)
Tulkas [12k\]: support eurogo
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;W[cg]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: USGO, already have a EuroGoTV account.  =)
UFGS [3d\]: now 3 white stones doe not look
UFGS [3d\]: giid
norg [3k\]: I was about to suggest c13!
UFGS [3d\]: good
evanj [2d\]: if you want better cameras at the congress, support eurogo :)
RoundTuit [2k\]: the Ustream wndow can be resized to hide the ads
goplayer7 [7k?\]: is c10 / d10 good?
B3nji [6k\]: whuy not c14 for b 
MssrBlanc [3k\]: how does watching support them without ads? 
afdasfasdf: w weak group in the mid
goplayer7 [7k?\]: sorry, just c10
B3nji [6k\]: g11 bad?
BenSenTen [?\]: 3 stones r crying
expat [4d?\]: the game is starting to look good for W
Tulkas [12k\]: without eurogo there would be no ussteam too
t0Strong4u [1d\]: k9 ?
holycarp [-\]: also you cab bookmarkhim no need to log in again when you close the browser
mozart [5d\]: hello everybody
baltimore [2k\]: there can be ustream w/o eurogo...
JeanVidToi [6k\]: e4 for b?
norg [3k\]: c14 for awesomeness :D
afdasfasdf: w weak group in the mid can be attacked
meuns [2k\]: f3 is coming
rydberg [2d\]: the stones are badly pressed, but after c13, b does not seem to benefit much from attacking them?
B3nji [6k\]: c11?
huggy [3k\]:  !
MrCactu5 [5k\]: c10
baltimore [2k\]: watching doesn't support AGA or anything at all...  its just neat
danigabi [6d\]: now black will aim at a full scale attack afgainst G6
nael: C15
meuns [2k\]: f3 then b launches a splitting attack
Erimies [4d\]: b needs to cut now 
danigabi [6d\]: G7
danigabi [6d\]: Black maybe M4
UFGS [3d\]: B will attack middle group
danigabi [6d\]: or J5
mcw85 [7k\]: Seems like Andy is losing.
BenSenTen [?\]: j10 to take the 3 stones for lunch?
expat [4d?\]: attacking the 3 stones is small
expat [4d?\]: b will attack g7
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;B[fq]C[evanj [2d\]: yay
danigabi [6d\]: M4= K4
lokki [3d\]: f3
meuns [2k\]: !!!!
meuns [2k\]: my move ^^
afdasfasdf: here  it starts
huggy [3k\]:  !
danigabi [6d\]: good  meuns :)
MrCactu5 [5k\]: black aims at M3
BenSenTen [?\]: 7 stones
evanj [2d\]: b is getting fed up
Yippie [2d\]: love se in this pos.
meuns [2k\]: ^^
goplayer7 [7k?\]: i guess if white responds with the side then black can get even more territory
norg [3k\]: In hindsight, that was quite big
lokki [3d\]: very strong move
Long88 [2d\]: w should resign
BenSenTen [?\]: a bigger net
expat [4d?\]: what?
Long88 [2d\]: this is over
MrCactu5 [5k\]: White only has 5 stones down there
t0Strong4u [1d\]: that is a huge move
expat [4d?\]: resign??
holycarp [-\]: some guy in ustream yesterday was asking about what they are those guys palying so 
lokki [3d\]: w has now 2 weak groups
GoGetta [-\]: f3 makes white group lookso weak
afdasfasdf: b is heading to winning
Long88 [2d\]: w bottom territory is too thin
Long88 [2d\]: and two weak groups
B3nji [6k\]: he wants kill e6 G7
Long88 [2d\]: plus behind in territory
danigabi [6d\]: top left aint territory yet
goplayer7 [7k?\]: is k5 good responce?
rydberg [2d\]: always resign requests at move 75 in a kibitz, its a law...
danigabi [6d\]: black has a clear lead in points and in thickness
expat [4d?\]: yeah
Isobeutel [2d?\]: not resign. this game is sopen
expat [4d?\]: and always without counting
norg [3k\]: SE = ZOMFGZ!!!
drauglir [2d\]: k5 now?
Nyanjilla [-\]: calm down, norg
JeanVidToi [6k\]: j17 group was forced to overconcenraction?
Long88 [2d\]: b has no weakness on the board
Mikki62 [2k\]: should w give up k11?
andg99 [?\]: guys,is andy liu bbw?
meuns [2k\]: yes
evanj [2d\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes
evanj [2d\]: i think you have your answer now
bobstep [2k?\]: SE sees all norg
SallyGross [18k?\]: b is greatly ahead, but a lot could still happen
Long88 [2d\]: white mistake earlier was to let b settle in sente
B3nji [6k\]: e9
Nyanjilla [-\]: SE can't cope with Chinese rules
norg [3k\]: Andy is just getting himself into a position where he can't possibly win so he can kill something huge and win :)
UFGS [3d\]: B shape/point  is solid, but w has potential
rydberg [2d\]: how should w go about this? move up with k5?
expat [4d?\]: w can win this game
fadsfjaoi: or ing or new zealand
danigabi [6d\]: J5 maybe Rydberg
fadsfjaoi: nor*
Nyanjilla [-\]: Chinese-based rules, then
danigabi [6d\]: which is why i wanted to K4 as black to make a great scale attack
rydberg [2d\]: mm, pressing a bit, ok
afdasfasdf: maybe w should f2 first?
BenSenTen [?\]: ignore n attack h14!!
GoGetta [-\]: Hard choice
SallyGross [18k?\]: it's still early ... w has a real battle to turn it around, but it is not impossible though it's now somewhat against the odds
afdasfasdf: j5
danigabi [6d\]: C10 possible too
danigabi [6d\]: a totally different strategy to throw both groups
BenSenTen [?\]: c10 not big...
danigabi [6d\]: maybe if w solidifies bottom and left in exchange for the 2 grousp is good
norg [3k\]: w came back from situations just as bad as this twice yesterday, though
goplayer7 [7k?\]: c10 is what black wants i think so he can get the other side
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;W[jo]C[GoGetta [-\]: c10 not imporant
drauglir [2d\]: yay
BenSenTen [?\]: k5 bigger
fadsfjaoi: j5 seems like bad style
]
;B[hl]C[danigabi [6d\]: its very imporant..white D8 connects
Mikki62 [2k\]: oh... w played my move
danigabi [6d\]: so black has to D8 which could almost be dame
evanj [2d\]: this is hard
Yippie [2d\]: I like h8
RikazeMA [24k?\]: I think C10's important, but it's more important to both of them left open atm...
dfgd: i like too^^
JeanVidToi [6k\]: b takes k11 attacking g7 group, great:)
goplayer7 [7k?\]: is h7 good?
UFGS [3d\]: now Iits fight
Long88 [2d\]: b swallowed the upper
UFGS [3d\]: no more peace
Long88 [2d\]: over 
danigabi [6d\]: J6 ?
t0Strong4u [1d\]: j6 
Long88 [2d\]: resign , this is too shameful
]
;W[fk]C[Isobeutel [2d?\]: lol no
GoGetta [-\]: Black wants to kill l11 
JeanVidToi [6k\]: h7 ?
Hoyuk [12k\]: remember...sheep
Goury [2k\]: look at se now, so funny :))
Karcusrd [7k\]: look at that great move
yakito [3k\]: ^_^
PinotNero [2k\]: Kim 8p still undefeated?
rydberg [2d\]: f9 makes h8 look very weak, how funny
about4d: pointless move, still
Isobeutel [2d?\]: dinerchtein vs. taranu was shameful, yes, but not this
Yippie [2d\]: j9 kills now
evanj [2d\]: both undefeated, pinot
danigabi [6d\]: why shameful?
Yippie [2d\]: but slow
about4d: what happened in dinerstein vs taranu ?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Ohh, really evanj?  Then this should get interesting...
Kipli: Perdonad es que estoy un poco perdido, cual es este torneo?
PinotNero [2k\]: dragon got killed is normal
danigabi [6d\]: congreso americano, kipli
GoGetta [-\]: Hes lost a huge group
about4d: is the record still open ?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: look at SE:)
Isobeutel [2d?\]: dinerchtein wont resign
about4d: he never does
Yippie [2d\]: se's gone haywire
BenSenTen [?\]: he did
PinotNero [2k\]: well... tat is his fighting spirit :)
g6 [?\]: Taranu won by resignation.
Kipli: Ahh muchas gcrasi dani
Kipli: *gracias
Isobeutel [2d?\]: clersly lost but played over and over again till the bitter end
UFGS [3d\]: H7?
about4d: please someone, load the game, if u got it
Goury [2k\]: dragon got killed is normal in fantasy books ^^
about4d: ill save it
Hoyuk [12k\]: well, se wins
Rocker [4d\]: C10!!
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;B[hj]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: get a big umberella and cover the glare
SallyGross [18k?\]: that's big
about4d: (pm me if u load it )
BenSenTen [?\]: b is thick, w is thin, nothing w can do
afdasfasdf: c9?
danigabi [6d\]: now w has miai to connect?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: finally  he resigns, but it was an awful game...
rydberg [2d\]: so if w continues to kikashi against the k11 stones, b will end up korigatachi again, right?
Mikki62 [2k\]: d9? c9 ?
Rocker [4d\]: C9!
Mofioi [6k\]: whats korigatashi ?
UFGS [3d\]: yeah w does not look good
danigabi [6d\]: c9 looks thin
norg [3k\]: k9 :P
yakito [3k\]: k8 ?
expat [4d?\]: c10?
rydberg [2d\]: korigatachi = over-concentrated
TeDan: Negro esta formándose un buen frupito
expat [4d?\]: or k8
Mikki62 [2k\]: miai to connect means... play s4?
Mofioi [6k\]: thx
danigabi [6d\]: j6 d10  miai
yakito [3k\]: k8 for moyo
TeDan: *grupito
PinotNero [2k\]: C9?
afdasfasdf: c10
Nyanjilla [-\]: so say so... don't use Japanese terms that not many people understand
afdasfasdf: get land first
danigabi [6d\]: D10 looks the honest
afdasfasdf:  see if b can kill
expat [4d?\]: i guess k8 :P
danigabi [6d\]: becuase j6 makes no points
rydberg [2d\]: this way people get to know them
Karcusrd [7k\]: I can see the other gobans in the back clearer
MatchFree [-\]: d10 shape looks very thin though..
Nyanjilla [-\]: not if there's no context
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
MatchFree [-\]: black d8 would make all white moves dame ther
danigabi [6d\]: please, take the japanese termiology discussion out of the game
Goury [2k\]: japanese? things become universal at some point.. like cola
Goury [2k\]: atari is atari in even Turkish
Hoyuk [12k\]: lol
Mikki62 [2k\]: since w can connect at j6.... w can play c9?
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
Rocker [4d\]: C9 IS NORmal
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;W[cl]C[Rocker [4d\]: oh
ermiwal [?\]: or that...
danigabi [6d\]: c9 is too thin
goplayer7 [7k?\]: wow, no one said that move
Isobeutel [2d?\]: tsuke?
Mikki62 [2k\]: almost :)
BenSenTen [?\]: i like this move
danigabi [6d\]: has a cut at D9 and invasion at C11
Karcusrd [7k\]: tired of B creapen around
PinotNero [2k\]: w feel like losing i guess
PinotNero [2k\]: to playing harder
Goury [2k\]: wow I also expected something like c9 but I guess w needs more to win
BenSenTen [?\]: it's bigger than c10 or c9
danigabi [6d\]: lol no its not
goplayer7 [7k?\]: b at b8?
PinotNero [2k\]: it is more greedy, yes
quasimoyo [1d\]: its bigger if white can conect
GoGetta [-\]: k9 
Goury [2k\]:  it's agressive
BenSenTen [?\]: it stretch to the limit
danigabi [6d\]: it tries to connect in a solid way
quasimoyo [1d\]: c10 its solid
PinotNero [2k\]: D8, C9, D9 how?
Rocker [4d\]: if u can win with thick moves only , everyone can be 9p too easy!
MatchFree [-\]: well its not that wierd.. black is thick there.. and white needs sabaki.. so why not attach? 
danigabi [6d\]: d7 b7 b6 d9 
]
;B[kn]C[Long88 [2d\]: if andy wins, I play Go again
Remember [2k\]: black's gonna win!
Yippie [2d\]: blah
JeanVidToi [6k\]: a kuku!
yakito [3k\]: interesting ^^
danigabi [6d\]: I wonder what can black do at C17 or so
PinotNero [2k\]: i think a 7d to win a 8d... chance is like 1 in 1000?
Goury [2k\]: yes matchfree it's the logic but w is weak around so things can get worse for w
Hoyuk [12k\]: if andy wins then i win some nuts
USGO1 [-\]: Don't know if video caught it, but Andy nodded a bit at this move.
expat [4d?\]: l6 is very good for B.. hence i wanted w to play k8
norg [3k\]: k6
rydberg [2d\]: oh... planning on capturing k11 on a more suitable scale?
yakito [3k\]: uyep
danigabi [6d\]: yes, rydberg
holycarp [-\]: ady won second strongert pro female yesterday 9p
MatchFree [-\]: danigabi, perhaps black doesnt risk it becasue hes ahaed anyway
SallyGross [18k?\]: how aqre they doing on time?
mcw85 [7k\]: Who is the man watching, USGO?
haku123 [1d\]: PinotNero : 7d is best amateur rank but they can worth a lot more
danigabi [6d\]: its very good direction becahse this way he kows if w  will play K6 somewhat connecting or he will cede with m4
eggedr [6k?\]: How is white supposed to win this game?
UFGS [3d\]: That move is to reduce territory
danigabi [6d\]: that is important because black doesnt want to aswer C8
PinotNero [2k\]: strongest ama maybe ard 3p
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Yes, who is that distinguished figure observing their game?
danigabi [6d\]: he wants to play something like D11 himself
Goury [2k\]: I think that l6 is beautiful clever move
PinotNero [2k\]: but still a low dan to beat a high dan...
PinotNero [2k\]: still very small chance...
]
;W[qp]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: k6 only move?
xedover [5k?\]: Mr Young Kwon is sitting at the end of the table
Mikki62 [2k\]: nvm
Long88 [2d\]: what is that tag that everybody was wearing on their neck
Remember [2k\]: white can win this
cbus [15k\]: have the players played each other before?
Hoyuk [12k\]: the usgo tag
Rocker [4d\]: the point is b lost the game in the upper side sqirmish , it made the already behind in territory game more difficult and made a game simple and easier for a 8p which means this game is pretty much over!!!
goplayer7 [7k?\]: what does the se say, this computer dosn't have it?
Karcusrd [7k\]: the girl going to seduce the game
cbus [15k\]: goplayer, W+9.5
]
;B[rp]C[goplayer7 [7k?\]: thx
mcw85 [7k\]: Stop the absurd comments.
]
;W[rq]C[R [1k\]: what is web-link to the broadcasted video?
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
R [1k\]: thanks
Remember [2k\]: hes got this
velmu [1d\]: id say b+5,5
]
;B[lo]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: lol
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to register for this one
PinotNero [2k\]: poor b
PinotNero [2k\]: w i mean
mcw85 [7k\]: Stop providing that link...
PinotNero [2k\]: obvioulsy b winning
UFGS [3d\]: I think this game will end with res
]
;W[pl]C[cbus [15k\]: you don't have to register at eurogo either
Omniscient [1k\]: yeah, you do
Mikki62 [2k\]: now w loocking thinn dani?
cbus [15k\]: no you don't
Remember [2k\]: q8 is nice! dont let him control the flow of the game!
cbus [15k\]: you need an account, thats all
Rocker [4d\]: i m the one who got the most predictions correct and provide intelligent comments always
danigabi [6d\]: very
cbus [15k\]: there was some test account that was mentioned yesterday
yakito [3k\]: can w cut l6?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: That's registering, Cbus
USGO1 [-\]: I may be wrong, but I think it's Young Kwon sitting down and watching the game.
]
;B[qk]
;W[lq]C[Long88 [2d\]: the age of Rock is fading
]
;B[dh]C[Goury [2k\]: no you have to register at eurogotv but it is worth to register, free and quick. ı think we should support eurogotv
SallyGross [18k?\]: b had an overwhelming advantage earlier on. The gap has really narrowed.
Omniscient [1k\]: why is it "worth" it to register?
Long88 [2d\]: shoulder hit wonder
expat [4d?\]: you guys are all hallucinating again
yakito [3k\]: j7 ?
Goury [2k\]: I feel it is worth. and you dont see the ads
]
;W[ch]C[robertm [1d\]: the age ofSscissors is rising?
Omniscient [1k\]: i registered with a throwaway account
rydberg [2d\]: these shoulder moves... feels like b is taking the game towards its end in the most secure way
]
;B[di]
;W[bm]C[huggy [3k\]: danigabi what is your score estimate atm?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: It shows support for EuroGoTV, Omniscient, in a way that's free for us.
]
;B[cn]C[checkered: any estimates?
danigabi [6d\]: black has a good lead
dfgd: can b c15?
raifu [3k\]: time?
huggy [3k\]: thx
norg [3k\]: Looks like f3 could have been the winning move... :(
danigabi [6d\]: d12 a pity though, now i cant see C17 living
SergeyASh [12k\]: "good lead" - it how many?
holycarp [-\]: that ustream is ilegal or something who is running it leeching from eurogotv?
R [1k\]: b9 
Omniscient [1k\]: it's quite trivial to host a live feed that is capable of counting how many viewers there are
MChow [6k\]: h2 soon for w
RikazeMA [24k?\]: No, holycarp.
Rocker [4d\]: i dunt agrre with b7 , i had to be d7 here
norg [3k\]: Can w do anything with q17?
holycarp [-\]: why they say stop providing that link
Rocker [4d\]: it*
yakito [3k\]: k8? or j7?
]
;W[ci]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: Ask whoever said it...
DerWitt [2d?\]: k8 possible for w?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Just take it to a private chat if you do.
yakito [3k\]: i guess
USGO1 [-\]: 45 min. for Black, 55 for white.
danigabi [6d\]: lol no
]
;B[po]
;W[oo]C[danigabi [6d\]: k8 los loss
danigabi [6d\]: this is sad
Hestler [6k\]: undo/
Goury [2k\]: eurogotv gets service from usstream which provides tv broadcasting service for all  kind of events
Karcusrd [7k\]: dont listen to anyone except admins
danigabi [6d\]: black cant cut w center in sete
danigabi [6d\]: and w solidified left territory
sensemaker [4d\]: is this live?
yakito [3k\]: ok
]
;B[nn]C[UFGS [3d\]: w is not bad
]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]C[afdasfasdf: w is hopeful
sensemaker [4d\]: i mean real time broadcast?
]
;W[sp]C[Goury [2k\]: so usstream is not illegal
RikazeMA [24k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
mcw85 [7k\]: There is a crowd gathering around.
Remember [2k\]: black's getting more and more territory
Remember [2k\]: does j7 work??
Omniscient [1k\]: yeah, seriously =.=
holycarp [-\]:  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
Omniscient [1k\]: ustream isn't even leeching from eurogo
Omniscient [1k\]: it's the other way around
yakito [3k\]: :/
DerWitt [2d?\]: how is b's result in the tuornament?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: *Rolls eyes*
Remember [2k\]: j77777777
MChow [6k\]: look at SE, it is crazy
PinotNero [2k\]: J7 for wat?
Over9k [2k\]: both undefeated
JeanVidToi [6k\]: 4 wins
TeDan: Quien veis q va por ahora con ventaja? W no?
PinotNero [2k\]: R6 sente
Goury [2k\]: no :) noone is leeching. it's the way of service :)
yakito [3k\]: c9 ?
danigabi [6d\]: b parece estar ganando
TeDan: am
DerWitt [2d?\]: w must reduce b's center to have a chance
UFGS [3d\]: verdad?
Remember [2k\]: oh i mean k7
JeanVidToi [6k\]: n3 ?
PinotNero [2k\]: b got C9 aji
oyoo [9k\]: can k12 survive?
PinotNero [2k\]: the center stones might be cut
Remember [2k\]: look at white's sitting posture :D
]
;B[dl]
;W[ck]C[DerWitt [2d?\]: b counting?
yakito [3k\]: c9 is good
]
;B[dk]C[yakito [3k\]: why not
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
Remember [2k\]: uh oh
PinotNero [2k\]: w connected now?
sensemaker [4d\]: never knew andy liu this strong
TeDan: D6 etc están muertas?
Remember [2k\]: now black easily defends his center territory
danigabi [6d\]: no
yakito [3k\]: h5 ?
MChow [6k\]: SE is carzy
danigabi [6d\]: black connecta en j6
DerWitt [2d?\]: j6
]
;W[in]C[danigabi [6d\]: blanco*
TeDan: en el clavo XD
rydberg [2d\]: while w connects g7, bs territory gets solidified and no chance of reducing the center
PinotNero [2k\]: H6
]
;B[im]
;W[hm]C[Long88 [2d\]: game is so close now
Remember [2k\]: OMG!
]
;B[jm]C[afdasfasdf: what is the count?
]
;W[qn]C[PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
Long88 [2d\]: If Andy win, I start playing Go agian
danigabi [6d\]: R6 so big!
toto [3k\]: hy evrybody, is it the game in direct or is it a comment ?
danigabi [6d\]: should be blacks!!
TomPioter [10k\]: time??
IGoofy [1d\]: the count is down
rydberg [2d\]: p18 starting to look big
Long88 [2d\]: yea
quasimoyo [1d\]: p17?
UFGS [3d\]: w not bad
DerWitt [2d?\]: and it was sente
GoGetta [-\]: Yose time
PinotNero [2k\]: Long88 quit go den... how can an amatuer win a pro...
]
;B[io]C[Long88 [2d\]: b forgot R 6
norg [3k\]: Andy would have won if b hadn't got a huge center
danigabi [6d\]: oops
rydberg [2d\]: ouch
Hestler [6k\]: uh oh
norg [3k\]: h5
yakito [3k\]: what is that?
DerWitt [2d?\]: nothing?
TeDan: no ha visto eso?
Yippie [2d\]: it was blacks *_^
yakito [3k\]: :s
yakito [3k\]: ^^
danigabi [6d\]: indeed
DerWitt [2d?\]: ah something
Goury [2k\]: j4 ? dont get this
Long88 [2d\]: huh?
Long88 [2d\]: no 
norg [3k\]: h5 j4 k6 ... ?
BuhariEX [2k\]: h5 
PinotNero [2k\]: oh no
danigabi [6d\]: J4- H5..
MChow [6k\]: h5 ?
Long88 [2d\]: NOOOOOOOO, R6 was greedy
PinotNero [2k\]: still K4 cut 
danigabi [6d\]: H5-- J4..
holycarp [-\]: nut kicking move
danigabi [6d\]: still cut
about4d: wow
Sgarobo [6k\]: w h5?
mcw85 [7k\]: Watch the language.
about4d: this atekomi ends the game
Hestler [6k\]: w h5 seems to work
Goury [2k\]: ah w got cut
PinotNero [2k\]: time to resign?
yakito [3k\]: sure it works ^^
afdasfasdf: now over?
Long88 [2d\]: :((((((
holycarp [-\]: mc are you admin?
DerWitt [2d?\]: aaannndy
yakito [3k\]: but
mcw85 [7k\]: Does it matter?
DerWitt [2d?\]: come on
yakito [3k\]: nop
Remember [2k\]: can he live?
yakito [3k\]: h5 j4 k6 k4 
yakito [3k\]: ouch
holycarp [-\]: yes it matters
Bubarik [1k\]: this is way of resigning, with everything alive and r5  capruted white had chance
PinotNero [2k\]: so this is a 3k mistake
DerWitt [2d?\]: quite hopeless
Bubarik [1k\]: if just connect, wont be enough points
norg [3k\]: h5 j4 k6 k4 leads to immense fighting?
Rocker [4d\]: resign like a man
MChow [6k\]: i think he is  a substitute admin
yakito [3k\]: resign...
IGoofy [1d\]: for panda egg : b+r
danigabi [6d\]: how inmense is the fight? black is connected
TeDan: H5
Goury [2k\]: wannabe admin ^^
yakito [3k\]: g4 ?
Rocker [4d\]: he is the 2nd Hu
afdasfasdf: w had opportunity
UFGS [3d\]: h5 ?
PinotNero [2k\]: look as if :)
BuhariEX [2k\]: h5 j4 k6 k4 
TeDan: h5 No?
lonsan [1k\]: no
afdasfasdf: if w j4 , w would win in the end
BuhariEX [2k\]: white lost.
Karcusrd [7k\]: i like this Game
MChow [6k\]: w should just try to live inside
Goury [2k\]: h5 seems working
lokki [3d\]: no wai for w to life
checkered: who knows
yakito [3k\]: h5 bad...
Remember [2k\]: h5 looks like it works
Sgarobo [6k\]: and w j4 ?
yakito [3k\]: how?
danigabi [6d\]: give more than a one move sequence
PinotNero [2k\]: H5 work?
Hisigi [8k\]: maybe G4 ...
rydberg [2d\]: looking at it from the bright side, if w tries something crazy now he still has a chance just like in the game yesterday
norg [3k\]: This looks like the moment before Andy kills something epic and wins
Goury [2k\]: only hope. I guess we wish that it works :)
jleone [5k\]: last w move ..quite small, isn't it ?
lonsan [1k\]: h5 works for b to win the game, if that's what you mean
Remember [2k\]: h5 j4 k6 k4 l4 l5 g4
PinotNero [2k\]: after  K4 cut... w still cant make 2 eyes
Yoseki [3k?\]: w wants J4, K6 and L7 cut
IGoofy [1d\]: even amas gets sometimes defeated by pros
Yippie [2d\]: h5 j4 k6 k4 l5 l4 m6 l7 m4 n5 and then?
checkered: h5 works but will damage the lower sid
checkered: *side
]
;W[ep]C[danigabi [6d\]: Remember = then H6
yakito [3k\]: =)
MChow [6k\]: White Should just try to live inside
Remember [2k\]: m'kay
Yippie [2d\]: oh
Long88 [2d\]: go is a game of life and death
quasimoyo [1d\]: g3?
erna [6k\]: live inside?!
Remember [2k\]: USGO time?
]
;B[gr]C[BuhariEX [2k\]: cant
yakito [3k\]: what a man !
IGoofy [1d\]: forget the life part
yakito [3k\]: xD
mcw85 [7k\]: No way can this live inside.
yakito [3k\]: h5  now?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: h5 ?
Long88 [2d\]: h5 now
MChow [6k\]: h5 possible now!
Rocker [4d\]: be a man!!
Korea4K [2d\]: G2 big
quasimoyo [1d\]: I dont think that white can live there
BuhariEX [2k\]: h5 j4 g5?
sensemaker [4d\]: g2 big?
Korea4K [2d\]: g2 15points
Yippie [2d\]: my sequence was wrong
yakito [3k\]: huh?
Goury [2k\]: g2 = match point :)
PinotNero [2k\]: G2 30 pts at leat
PinotNero [2k\]: least*
erna [6k\]: He has to try h5...
Yippie [2d\]: w got captured like that
Hideto [3k\]: h5 dont work in my opinion
afdasfasdf: seems w can live
IGoofy [1d\]: a dwarf is watching
JeanVidToi [6k\]: b has 1  group:)
TeDan: Porq H5 es una mala jugada?
PinotNero [2k\]: can live? oni 1 eye :)
danigabi [6d\]: no se sabe
danigabi [6d\]: simplemete H5 no connecta a blanco
danigabi [6d\]: no es que es mala jugada
danigabi [6d\]: pero para vivir adentro se necesitara
USGO1 [-\]: 40 minutes for black, 48 for white.
watergun [-\]: who is leading at the moment?
TeDan: le hace atari y conectas en K6
MChow [6k\]: h5 j4 g5 k6 h6 
mcw85 [7k\]: B
danigabi [6d\]: Y K4
JeanVidToi [6k\]: leader
danigabi [6d\]: TeDan
watergun [-\]: thanks
TeDan: am
Long88 [2d\]: i think white can live
sensemaker [4d\]: isnt black tartrate?
Long88 [2d\]: h5 and then G4
lonsan [1k\]: yes
danigabi [6d\]: yes, sensemaker
mcw85 [7k\]: Black is rumored to be tartrate. ><
Yippie [2d\]: then no one on kgs can win against him
RikazeMA [24k?\]: *Rolls eyes*  It's rumored Kim is Tartrate, yes.
DerWitt [2d?\]: dani wants to  distract from the fat that he himself is tartrate
kimlongVN [3k?\]: res
MChow [6k\]: w should be able to live
Yippie [2d\]: everything would be in ruins
lonsan [1k\]: hardly just rumoured
sensemaker [4d\]: has he got weaker since tartrate?
PinotNero [2k\]: G4? den G5 cut
PinotNero [2k\]: lol
Long88 [2d\]: there is still D4 move for white
danigabi [6d\]: DerWitt: lol so silly *packs his bags and runs away*
Long88 [2d\]: if G5 then w F5
PinotNero [2k\]: no use
PinotNero [2k\]: still dead
watergun [-\]: w's e6 group in danger..
DerWitt [2d?\]: ??
Lion [2d\]: mm,
Lion [2d\]: someone got the game of andi liu and feng yon?
Korea4K [2d\]: i cant see two eyes for w
Lion [2d\]: from yestreday?
lonsan [1k\]: lion: should be in the usgo1 game list
sensemaker [4d\]: he's loud because he wants to be heard, he's fat because he wants to be seen
DerWitt [2d?\]: usgo1
pendulum [3k\]: usgo10 does also
Goury [2k\]: d4 for w any use?
monk316 [1k\]: i think USGO1 should ask w if he is tartrate or not
monk316 [1k\]: it would be a huge public service
supercow [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62 <- all the games
oblivion [4d\]: seems b leads
pendulum [3k\]: isnt white bigbadwolf?
chilldude [5k\]: has anyone got the url for the cam?
monk316 [1k\]: sorry, b
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
chilldude [5k\]: thx
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Lion [2d\]: who won the game?
UFGS [3d\]: it's very tough for w to live
Lion [2d\]: andi liu?
Joven [-\]: alot of games with comments here: http://gocongress.org/news.php
sensemaker [4d\]: so cool to beat high dan pros
JeanVidToi [6k\]: u r rihgt monk
MChow [6k\]: andy
watergun [-\]: w=bbw, b=tartrate?
Lion [2d\]: aginst the 9p?!
Lion [2d\]: wow..
Phear [3d\]: yes pendulum
afdasfasdf: w can play h6
rydberg [2d\]: this is exciting, i still believe w can pull something off
Rocker [4d\]: pls resign 
PinotNero [2k\]: same sentiment
Yoseki [3k?\]: pls stop trolling
danigabi [6d\]: h5 j4 g5 h6 
afdasfasdf: w also has d4
SunnyD [2d\]: who is the dude sitting next to kim
Long88 [2d\]: W H5 then G4 
danigabi [6d\]: seems extremely hard to live
Yippie [2d\]: yesa please, I can't leave untill I know the end of this game *_*
afdasfasdf: e5 can be an eye
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Young Kwon, Sunny
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Or so I've been told.
UFGS [3d\]: w did not see that move
]
;W[gp]C[erna [6k\]: a new variation!
JeanVidToi [6k\]: mission impossible!
TeDan: anda q no
Ophelia [-\]: I like it.
DerWitt [2d?\]: h6 enough?
Yoseki [3k?\]: H5
GoGetta [-\]: g5 ?
Korea4K [2d\]: H6 only
eggedr [6k?\]: why not h5 firsT?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: g5 
danigabi [6d\]: strange not doing the atari
raifu [3k\]: escaping!
Karcusrd [7k\]: all dans can you please clean all the stone and staighten outr the table for the next pros
PinotNero [2k\]: H6
sensemaker [4d\]: emptriangle please
mcw85 [7k\]: H5 doesn't work.
Korea4K [2d\]: cut on H6
TeDan: porqrompe en K4
danigabi [6d\]: which empty triangle?
Ophelia [-\]: I love a good empty triengle.
baian [1d\]: hehe
]
;B[hq]C[yakito [3k\]: dead....
Rocker [4d\]: eat it all
huggy [3k\]: hopeless
Mikki62 [2k\]: w connected... no?
Hestler [6k\]: no
sensemaker [4d\]: black seems confident
MChow [6k\]: h5?
yakito [3k\]: not connected here
Hestler [6k\]: read it out past h5
Rocker [4d\]: b had to resign at j5 with dignity
robertm [1d\]: empty triangle smells like......victory
Gresil [-\]: h5 j4 k6 k4...
yakito [3k\]: ^^
danigabi [6d\]: black?
PinotNero [2k\]: good timing to resign
danigabi [6d\]: you are insane rocker
watergun [-\]: ??
Sarcasm [?\]: whats with whites name?
plusguy [-\]: where can i see the result table for the USGC ?
yakito [3k\]: d4 ?
Sgarobo [6k\]: what about w h5 now?
Ophelia [-\]: B is pro, he always looks confident. 
raifu [3k\]: time usgo?
yakito [3k\]: first
watergun [-\]: are you reading it correctly, rocker?
lonsan [1k\]: does b have only one shirt with him at congress?
afdasfasdf: alive
xedover [5k?\]: raifu, only 5 mins have passed since the last time check
evanj [2d\]: no, two
IGoofy [1d\]: after a while w realized what he has done ..
Rocker [4d\]: i know that at j5 w got killed without reading by intuition 
Rocker [4d\]: its not hard thing to feel it
evanj [2d\]: he has a blue shirt too
holycarp [-\]: homer simpson style
Yippie [2d\]: beer
lonsan [1k\]: is it the same shirt just in blue?
holycarp [-\]: lucky shirt maybe
Goury [2k\]: but you said b resign ^^
]
;W[il]C[Rocker [4d\]: oh?
DerWitt [2d?\]: wow
fads: h5 j4 d4 d1 f5 ?
Rocker [4d\]: i think i said w resign?
DerWitt [2d?\]: come on w
norg [3k\]: Here comes Andy! :D
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Huh...
SallyGross [18k?\]: a brave move ...
yakito [3k\]: ^^
PinotNero [2k\]: K8
PinotNero [2k\]: last struggle
danigabi [6d\]: brave
yakito [3k\]: k6
PinotNero [2k\]: can sense resignation coming
Ophelia [-\]: woohoo! this is exciting.
holycarp [-\]: rocker is strong
Yippie [2d\]: Rocker [4d\]: b had to resign at j5 with dignity
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Brave, but risky, no?
PinotNero [2k\]: lol
DerWitt [2d?\]: looks quite desperate
danigabi [6d\]: K8 is natural
SallyGross [18k?\]: brave is risky
danigabi [6d\]: but w gets G8 in sente
Yoseki [3k?\]: nothing to lose
UFGS [3d\]: H(
PinotNero [2k\]: when u lost... there is no such thing as risky
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Ehh, not always...
danigabi [6d\]: which gets closer and closer to life
UFGS [3d\]: H9
Long88 [2d\]: x_0 I don't see anything
yakito [3k\]: g8 ?
afdasfasdf: now b's headache
checkered: xD yeah
Goury [2k\]: h6
Omniscient [1k\]: W always has a ko at H5
danigabi [6d\]: the severest answer is H9 but this gives w K6 which connects after L7
DerWitt [2d?\]: w really cool
mcw85 [7k\]: These just seem like last ditch efforts.
calm [5k\]: Is there a schedule for these games?
danigabi [6d\]: what ko, Omnisciet?
kimlongVN [3k?\]: g8 w will give
Korea4K [2d\]: K8 Atari no problem
DerWitt [2d?\]: i want to be like him
UFGS [3d\]: h6
Sgarobo [6k\]: why not simply b h9?
anapazapa [2d\]: its alive, w won
SunnyD [2d\]: W not enough living in gote
TeDan: em w live?
danigabi [6d\]: h9 h5 j4 k6 k4 l7 k8 l5 m6 l4 
PinotNero [2k\]: even if alive...
PinotNero [2k\]: i oso think b won
Rocker [4d\]: the reason i said b is that i had that bias 8p should take white stones 
danigabi [6d\]: the question is if w can live with  G8 sente
afdasfasdf: a very weak 8 p
Ophelia [-\]: in an open, the color is random.
Segungo [-\]: can b just h6 
Segungo [-\]: ?
danigabi [6d\]: yes but white would  H9
Long88 [2d\]: whiteis thinking
anapazapa [2d\]: i am the weakest 8p in the entire universe and beyond
danigabi [6d\]: and the dead group approaches black territory. That means that is w lives, b territory got destroyed for nothing
DerWitt [2d?\]: h6 now?
checkered: if white does live...
checkered: hmm
Omniscient [1k\]: even if W lives, still 10 points behind
PinotNero [2k\]: weak 8p? i wanna be one :)
Omniscient [1k\]: W needs to reduce top right somehow
Long88 [2d\]: it's weak, why is it weak, because it lack hatred
UFGS [3d\]: H6 seems the best move
norg [3k\]: This game doesn't hurt my mind like last night's
Goury [2k\]: after h6, with h9 w doesnt seem to have even one eye
DerWitt [2d?\]: but risky though
kimlongVN [3k?\]: g8 good move
PinotNero [2k\]: K8 not ok?
rydberg [2d\]: mm, h6 takes away both the k6 and k8 aji
danigabi [6d\]: why not K8 UFGS?
about4d: H9
Rocker [4d\]: b is feeling w is testing 8p's ego , feeling uncomfortable with this
monk316 [1k\]: h6
mcw85 [7k\]: I think k8 is fine.
UFGS [3d\]: potential two eye in the middle
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
kimlongVN [3k?\]: g8 open land and kill group
PinotNero [2k\]: strange... why a 8p need to think here
anapazapa [2d\]: h9 h5 j4 k6 k4 l7, and?
UFGS [3d\]: I think w can live with two eye if K8
danigabi [6d\]: how?
danigabi [6d\]: do you think, or do you fear w can live?
Rocker [4d\]: b thinking between l8 and h9
PinotNero [2k\]: i dun think a 8p think H7 group is alive
danigabi [6d\]: H6 if fails to kill w, loses a load of points
Korea4K [2d\]: H8 better than Atari on K8
PinotNero [2k\]: it is dead... n very dead
danigabi [6d\]: i cannot read w alive even with G8 sente
Korea4K [2d\]: sorry H6
DerWitt [2d?\]: yes h6 is risky
quasimoyo [1d\]: I think that h9 better move
DerWitt [2d?\]: because he definitely has to kill then
danigabi [6d\]: H9 = h5 j4 k6 k4 l7 k8 l5 m6 l4 
Long88 [2d\]: :(( it's over for white
Sgarobo [6k\]: why is l7 necessary in this sequence?
Daoloth [-\]: how about letting w live here & trying to win in the endgame?
Korea4K [2d\]: J8 means make second eye
danigabi [6d\]: because  w is in damezumari, if he plays L5, black L4 is atari
Rocker [4d\]: h9 and b easy win but 8ps ego doesnt allow his terriotory get hurt a little by an ama with this faking move
DerWitt [2d?\]: 7d power - many players would resign at j5
bsaltman [3k\]: just h9 enough
UFGS [3d\]: H9 won't work
JeanVidToi [6k\]: simplest move is best
DerWitt [2d?\]: how old is andy?
UFGS [3d\]: K8 is dangerous
danigabi [6d\]: i gave the sequence why h9 fails like 3 times already
GoGetta [-\]: How much time do they have left??
SergeyASh [12k\]: h6 ?
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;B[jn]C[andg99 [?\]: andy is 18
Ephemere [2d\]: wow
evanj [2d\]: go for it
DerWitt [2d?\]: ok
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
Ephemere [2d\]: b goes for kill
DerWitt [2d?\]: 18?
Hestler [6k\]: h9?
DerWitt [2d?\]: all or nothing at all
IGoofy [1d\]: game over. insert coin to continue.
PinotNero [2k\]: b is saying even if H9... still die
Long88 [2d\]: sigh ANdy go home
saekla [16k\]: Every time I see the name Andy in text, I hear Morgan Freeman saying it in my head. Too much shawshank Redemtion, I guess...
UFGS [3d\]: I think that was the best move after he played
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;W[hk]C[danigabi [6d\]: b must be very sure w dies
PinotNero [2k\]: G9
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;B[ik]C[PinotNero [2k\]: all die
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm J9 the same...
Gresil [-\]: no eye there
]
;W[gl]C[norg [3k\]: 'ah', says andy
TeDan: este tipo de torneo es eliminatorio¿¿
evanj [2d\]: no
PinotNero [2k\]: K9?
danigabi [6d\]: no
Rocker [4d\]: see , the pride of 8p wouldnt allow  a compromise suggested by an amateur
TeDan: ok
PinotNero [2k\]: or G5?
sensemaker [4d\]: g10
DerWitt [2d?\]: k9 g10
andyishot: i believe white will win
PinotNero [2k\]: omg
lokki [3d\]: rofl w is dead
billbell [1d\]: w shape getting better
IGoofy [1d\]: w performing the eyeless buddha style
checkered: lol
Ephemere [2d\]: g10 ? would be a fun killing move
PinotNero [2k\]: i will put all my money on the 8p
gobanban [4k\]: how much is it?
DerWitt [2d?\]: g10 seems best
baian [1d\]: rocker  wow  i thought pro just looks at where the stones are to decide 
UFGS [3d\]: G10
PinotNero [2k\]: b win... unless he is drunk
WoBuDong: w fine stop overreacting
afdasfasdf: w win unless b can kill
Mukti [4d\]: G5?
kimhotter: White will so kill
Hideto [3k\]: w may live now 
Ephemere [2d\]: betting 10 againsty 0 is useless ^^
PinotNero [2k\]: i oni bet on w if black is down wif 2 liter of beer :)
DerWitt [2d?\]: looks like w didnt read g8 ;)
andyishot: I believe in white
DerWitt [2d?\]: b i meant
Ephemere [2d\]: i only see 1 eye
sensemaker [4d\]: g8 obvious
Rocker [4d\]: if its not the pride thing i dunt know why b just h9 and declare the easy victory
danigabi [6d\]: w figured that if w has to die he doesnt need to k8 or j9
monk316 [1k\]: j10 for any chance to kill now?
Denniskutl [3d\]: why is b thinking now? he should have thought this before playing k6
bsaltman [3k\]: seems no semeai or ko possible for w
danigabi [6d\]: so he can go for the eyes at G5
Mukti [4d\]: I see no eyespace at all after black g5...
Rocker [4d\]: why b didnt*
andyishot: Looks super dead
PinotNero [2k\]: b will go for kill
PinotNero [2k\]: definitely
MrCactu5 [5k\]: i don't get it
MrCactu5 [5k\]: i guess it's false eye
UFGS [3d\]: I think B will resign
UFGS [3d\]: I meant W
Ephemere [2d\]: g8 is obvious but risky, b is probably loking at a way to force w to live gote with no risk.... or just want to be absolutely sure
oblivion [4d\]: k8
lonsan [1k\]: for a change, kim looks interested
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;B[jk]C[Yippie [2d\]: why are people colorblind today?
mach48 [5k\]: andy is winning
sensemaker [4d\]: black and white arent colour
Ophelia [-\]: Andy looks worried.
quasimoyo [1d\]: d4?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Maybe because Kim was white at yesterdays game...
UFGS [3d\]: Andy is in deep water
norg [3k\]: g10 
Goury [2k\]: e10 
PinotNero [2k\]: omg
bsaltman [3k\]: w can thrash but runs into brick wall at end
Albast [9k\]: there is no gold
PinotNero [2k\]: sensemaker... r u drunk?
DerWitt [2d?\]: e10 than g10?
PinotNero [2k\]: b n w is still color :)
]
;W[fo]C[Rocker [4d\]: e8
Thorvald [7k\]: white may win if he is alive here
WoBuDong: Ah, he sees it, what a shame really...
ddadsd [6k\]: hm
norg [3k\]: Sooner or later h5 could make a comeback
Ephemere [2d\]: is the upper left corner completly closed? no ko?
Thorvald [7k\]: still open I guess
danigabi [6d\]: mm
danigabi [6d\]: theres a ko?
GoGetta [-\]: Why is there a parentese in andys name??
lokki [3d\]: maybe w can life
norg [3k\]: How do KGS ranks translate to AGA ranks?
Mukti [4d\]: There seems to be att least some bad aji un the upper left corner with black C16
afdasfasdf: should w play d4 first?
Over9k [2k\]: not his legal name
Sgarobo [6k\]: technically, black and white are not color
sensemaker [4d\]: those are double quote
Goury [2k\]: no w can chase b outside if b c17 and kills
PinotNero [2k\]: wat ur eye can see... is all colors
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Black is color.
quasimoyo [1d\]: e7
DerWitt [2d?\]: where does andy live?
norg [3k\]: Sgarobo- your definition of colour is broken. Buy a new dictionary
Yippie [2d\]: these players ranks on kgs are 9d and 9d
GoGetta [-\]: Lol wrong word
sensemaker [4d\]: black is absence of colour
Sgarobo [6k\]: black is absence of light = no color
raifu [3k\]: white is colour, black is absence of colour
Rocker [4d\]: e7
IGoofy [1d\]: black and white are colors like you and me
Eeplord: unless you are painting
Eeplord: and these stones are painted
GoGetta [-\]: Black is a outline white is a shade
Eeplord: so black is a color
JeanVidToi [6k\]: g5 
Ophelia [-\]: pigment is different than light.
pel [1k?\]: paint is not equal to color
Mukti [4d\]: black is absence of reflection of light. not absence of colour
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;B[hn]C[Dogen [5k\]: geez, get a grip guys...
danigabi [6d\]: talk colors outside guts
Mukti [4d\]: :-)
Long88 [2d\]: white live!!!!
PinotNero [2k\]: so black colour paint is not colour?
danigabi [6d\]: guys
PinotNero [2k\]: lol?
saekla [16k\]: That's what a color is, though. A set of refelcted frequencies.
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol in color
Long88 [2d\]: white still have e10
quasimoyo [1d\]: e8
DerWitt [2d?\]: w lives
Dogen [5k\]: KGS kibitzers can argue about anything... how about sticking to the game
GoGetta [-\]: e10 ?
Long88 [2d\]: w live
afdasfasdf: ko
Long88 [2d\]: hooray
Wizzos [2k\]: d4?
rydberg [2d\]: i see more and more w eyes
Eeplord: Stop talking about go plz go back to the color
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;W[dp]C[Long88 [2d\]: andy got courage
Tulkas [12k\]: you guys have too much time to argue about what is color or not
Long88 [2d\]: admire
Korea4K [2d\]: D4 is for w not sente^^
kiusasori [2d\]: e10 d10 g10 one eye
GoGetta [-\]: Hmmm ko>
GoGetta [-\]: *?
danigabi [6d\]: this is sente
DerWitt [2d?\]: very sente
danigabi [6d\]: its insae to allow w c3
Long88 [2d\]: woot
Goury [2k\]: and we have too much time to watch a 4 hours go game ^^
Long88 [2d\]: andy GOT IT 
Mukti [4d\]: I still don't see 2 (real, white) eyes
Albast [9k\]: is b ignores there is a ko
lonsan [1k\]: g10 after this?
BuhariEX [2k\]: black n3 works?
lonsan [1k\]: ko?
Curiot [2k\]: E7
IGoofy [1d\]: someone has called the crowd together
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Long88, you may yet again play Go.  =)
danigabi [6d\]: Mukti: c3 g6 e7 f7  this is alive!
danigabi [6d\]: not even ko
Tulkas [12k\]: well i think watching a go game is better then argue about colors...
Rocker [4d\]: it feels the pro's pride  was too much 
quasimoyo [1d\]: e8 make life
afdasfasdf: go w
lonsan [1k\]: oh wow
danigabi [6d\]: w real magician
lonsan [1k\]: looks like danigabi is right....
Mukti [4d\]: wow, my blindspot.
DerWitt [2d?\]: chapeau
Goury [2k\]: maybe doing both of them is more productive for someone else ^^
baian [1d\]: rocker you seem stuck on a single thought
play234 [-\]: w is monster
DerWitt [2d?\]: how can one learn to read like this?
holycarp [-\]: w beated a 9p yesterday with a messy fight like this
WoBuDong: I told you people 7 moves ago that white was fine.  Jeeze...
pendulum [3k\]: how much time do they have left usgo ?
Mukti [4d\]: My consolation is, a pro seems to have had the same blindspot...
raifu [3k\]: go andy
UFGS [3d\]: w live
DerWitt [2d?\]: now b demolralized
quasimoyo [1d\]: black h9 was better to me
danigabi [6d\]: i think that K6 wasnt needed
Werfeus [5d\]: b must think that he could've done all this after exchange of R6 P6.. must hurt.. so gotta try to kill this with every power
JeanVidToi [6k\]: w has sente?
quasimoyo [1d\]: if white conect he lose k3 and m3 maybe
Goury [2k\]: the problem is w lives in gote may not be enough
carbon729 [3d\]: what is w's nick on kgs?
PinotNero [2k\]: K9 look like a misread
GoGetta [-\]: White left to scream how happy he is he lived 
JeanVidToi [6k\]: bbw
Ophelia [-\]: Kim shook his head.disapoinment? or confidence?
DerWitt [2d?\]: bigbadwolf
lonsan [1k\]: kim is looking all over the board to try and find a place to make it up
IGoofy [1d\]: w lucky again ?
UFGS [3d\]: upset
Albast [9k\]: the pro seems to be in trouble
Korea4K [2d\]: E7 better than answer
Cookiex [1d?\]: is there a video broadcast?
sensemaker [4d\]: tartrate losing !!
lokki [3d\]: not lucky its skill
Rocker [4d\]: its just b's greed or big ego that allowed this to happen , its not w magic , i would easily find a move like j8 at last struggle
Thorvald [7k\]: b is tartrate ?
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Cookiex [1d?\]: ty
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry, wrong one.
carbon729 [3d\]: wow, he has a beautiful girl friend.
UFGS [3d\]: andy very strong
Wizzos [2k\]: g6 is ko no?
USGO1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Wizzos [2k\]: at c3
danigabi [6d\]: b is wining regardless 
danigabi [6d\]: he has a nice lead
USGO1 [-\]: Eurog go, no ads
sensemaker [4d\]: black leading?
danigabi [6d\]: yeah
Denniskutl [3d\]: black e7 now
Thorvald [7k\]: va y avoir un pic de connexion sur le live...
sensemaker [4d\]: i see white too big
UFGS [3d\]: w better I think
sensemaker [4d\]: havent counted... just quick judgment
danigabi [6d\]: black ceter is quite big
danigabi [6d\]: center
esko [2k\]: b e7 looks tempting
PinotNero [2k\]: D1
quasimoyo [1d\]: black need d1
UFGS [3d\]: H6 was a mistake for B
Goury [2k\]: b is leading and gets sente here
PinotNero [2k\]: b need to win by yose now
Denniskutl [3d\]: e7 c3 b2 kills w, no?
TheCount [2d?\]: or c3
IGoofy [1d\]: b should study l&d problems daily
danigabi [6d\]: b gets O17 so
nazendaali [7k\]: there is a lot of mistakes in every game, dont tell them all
PinotNero [2k\]: yes
GoGetta [-\]: Black knows how to kill
PinotNero [2k\]: D1, E8, O17
norg [3k\]: I begin to wonder if perhaps the pro underestimated Andy...
PinotNero [2k\]: still a game
Mukti [4d\]: sorry for this offtopic question, but my browser (Firefox, Safari) consistently crashed when I try to watch the usteam...any tips?
SergeyASh [12k\]: b g6?
sensemaker [4d\]: use IE
GoGetta [-\]: He won his last twogames by killing a huge group
DerWitt [2d?\]: no j5 was good
pendulum [3k\]: isnt white playing in the ing finals also ? is it today too ?
nazendaali [7k\]: use opera
MrCactu5 [5k\]: b f4?
IGoofy [1d\]: watch tv
TheCount [2d?\]: update your browser
WoBuDong: B wants to win by 0.5 points to make W feel the loss all the more
ponticello [2k\]: my firefox can handle it
DerWitt [2d?\]: don't think b underestimeted w
evanj [2d\]: mine too
Isobeutel [2d?\]: USGO, how much time left for the Players?
Werfeus [5d\]: fly to dc
Goury [2k\]: firefox 3.5 should be fine
Rocker [4d\]: but as a pro , his ego must ve been  bruised  big  if he has to let this w live. not pleasnat thing to continue on the yose 
Karcusrd [7k\]: wait and click popout
Mukti [4d\]: I have 3.5 Maybe it's a mac problem...
Goury [2k\]: maybe there is some problem else
GOvermind [-\]: if both crash, it could be a problem with the flash plugin...
nazendaali [7k\]: what are their strength, any link or something?
sensemaker [4d\]: how to underestimate andy.. he beat feng yun and yilun yang
danigabi [6d\]: quite the opposite rocker
evanj [2d\]: works w/ 3.5 on my mac
Goury [2k\]: oh ok
danigabi [6d\]: amateurs are weakminded..pros dont mind
Ophelia [-\]: I'm using Firefox 3.5 on an old G4 mac, and it's fine.
danigabi [6d\]: jsut keep going
Sgarobo [6k\]: if white lives there I think is ahead A LOT..am I wrong?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: time left?
raifu [3k\]: another win for zchen
WoBuDong: Yeah but Feng Yuun is a woman... 
Denniskutl [3d\]: b should ignore d4 and play e7 i think
Eeplord: lol
danigabi [6d\]: you are wrong sgarobo
danigabi [6d\]: black is ahead
SunnyD [2d\]: hey, we are not talking about driving here
Ophelia [-\]: uncaled for WoBu
checkered: what happened anyway...did feng yun mess up?
UFGS [3d\]: I am not sure B can catch up with points
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm
danigabi [6d\]: dudes
WoBuDong: Feng Yun played bold but got caught
danigabi [6d\]: i will clone
PinotNero [2k\]: E7 look good
DerWitt [2d?\]: unfortunately w cant live in sente
GoGetta [-\]: o17 ?
sensemaker [4d\]: how big lead danigabi?
soulspirit [3k?\]: w definetly ahead
Sgarobo [6k\]: ouch.. I count white ahead of 40 points if survive.. 
watergun [-\]: that mirrors your own ego, rocker. ;)
sensemaker [4d\]: have u counted komi too dani?
Sgarobo [6k\]: I can't understand where I am wrong...
IGoofy [1d\]: move old pro
about4d: c3 e10 d10 g10  easy for white if b protects
sensemaker [4d\]: C17
Spectateur: 123
Eeplord: A19
ecgotf [6k\]: maaaaxxx~~~
checkered: im pretty sure white can't live
Rocker [4d\]: but he seemed not happy that w didnt resign ,  guessing from his long thinking at w's j8 , which means  he wanted to kill all really , and failed =logically he wouldnt be too happy about it 
Isobeutel [2d?\]: b thinking deep
Gresil [-\]: b looks a bit like roy orbison from this angle
IGoofy [1d\]: 8p is no match for kgs dudes
Hightway [7k\]: andy liu is  nicely strong player
GoGetta [-\]: What is the time left?????????????????
sensemaker [4d\]: white surely did aim to kill
Eeplord: 120 obv
lonsan [1k\]: who is the guy in blue? i've seen a lot of him
]
;B[gn]C[norg [3k\]: Andy is immense :D
Denniskutl [3d\]: wow
]
;W[cq]
;B[bq]C[quasimoyo [1d\]: ups
sensemaker [4d\]: insane?
monk316 [1k\]: according to some, 8p is the ultimate kgs dude
lokki [3d\]: wowo
]
;W[br]
;B[dq]C[lokki [3d\]: he ignore and took ko
evanj [2d\]: eep
Denniskutl [3d\]: ko?
IGoofy [1d\]: all in
ecgotf [6k\]: what just happened
Gresil [-\]: 8p is javaness??
Eeplord: ya?
norg [3k\]: only 499 observers...
lonsan [1k\]: awesome
GoGetta [-\]: One more for 500
monk316 [1k\]: yup
]
;W[rd]C[GoGetta [-\]: YES i saw that ko
sensemaker [4d\]: insanity!!
nouziller [2d?\]: myung raises
norg [3k\]: e10 ko threat! I can do ko :)
Sgarobo [6k\]: b d1
PinotNero [2k\]: awesome
evanj [2d\]: big enough??
Rocker [4d\]: massive threat
PinotNero [2k\]: ko to kill now
]
;B[ds]C[nouziller [2d?\]: unbelievable
lonsan [1k\]: as we saw yesterday, andy is a master at ko
]
;W[rf]C[lonsan [1k\]: wow
Hightway [7k\]: andy win
evanj [2d\]: wow
norg [3k\]: :O
lokki [3d\]: lol
Haven [9k?\]: O.O
holycarp [-\]: myun said he was not tartrate
soulspirit [3k?\]: oh dam
lonsan [1k\]: enough?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: looool
]
;B[rc]C[quasimoyo [1d\]: ouch
]
;W[se]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: lol
soulspirit [3k?\]: lol
raifu [3k\]: wow!
UFGS [3d\]: huge exchange
GoGetta [-\]: Short ko
PinotNero [2k\]: exchange?
PinotNero [2k\]: lol
]
;B[ob]C[PinotNero [2k\]: if b alive... 
Rocker [4d\]: i sense this is b's fail
norg [3k\]: This is following a remarkably similar pattern to the Feng Yun game...
Hideto [3k\]: if black live game over
soulspirit [3k?\]: w win if it kills
PinotNero [2k\]: w gained very little
lokki [3d\]: not enoug for w 
]
;W[sc]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: t17 still ko
Gresil [-\]: black is in control.
GoGetta [-\]: SE disagress
danigabi [6d\]: woooow
Denniskutl [3d\]: i dont understand why black played this ko
lokki [3d\]: becasue b lifes
Sgarobo [6k\]: w search another ko
]
;B[sb]C[danigabi [6d\]: i just cloned a count of the whole board
Hightway [7k\]: ko7
evanj [2d\]: another ko
Thorvald [7k\]: dani, let's count again :p
danigabi [6d\]: now its messed up
Yoseki [3k?\]: spartaaaaaaa
lokki [3d\]: new ko
]
;W[rb]C[GoGetta [-\]: Another ko
Cassis0 [5d\]: it doesnt feel black is "in control" 
]
;B[sd]C[PinotNero [2k\]: hohoho
lonsan [1k\]: i love ko
PinotNero [2k\]: ko again
]
;W[qb]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: f16
PinotNero [2k\]: w got ko threat?
soulspirit [3k?\]: over
]
;B[pb]
;W[sc]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: w will kill it
Cassis0 [5d\]: f6*
danigabi [6d\]: C17?
norg [3k\]: Ko makes me stressed :(
monk316 [1k\]: c17
Long88 [2d\]: white is so win this
DerWitt [2d?\]: wow what happened?
UFGS [3d\]: does not look good for B
Karcusrd [7k\]: biggie KO
Hightway [7k\]: f6 ultimate ko thraet
lonsan [1k\]: c17, n4 area...hard for w to win this ko i think
raifu [3k\]: yes andy!
MrCactu5 [5k\]: N3?
Sgarobo [6k\]: b t5?
Rocker [4d\]: c16
nouziller [2d?\]: c17open
lonsan [1k\]: not many threats for w to live on bottom left either
jm1107 [3k\]: how much time remaing?
Dogen [5k\]: I go away for a few minutes and everything changes...
]
;B[mq]C[norg [3k\]: is e10 still a ko threat?
]
;W[mr]
;B[sd]C[GoGetta [-\]: White has like a billion threats
norg [3k\]: q17 
fatihsulak [2d\]: black is better 
sensemaker [4d\]: a billion not enough
siulongbao [6k\]: how can a 7d beat a 8p ...
siulongbao [6k\]: i dotn get that
evanj [2d\]: q17?
GoGetta [-\]: e10 
raifu [3k\]: ....
lonsan [1k\]: who do you think has more threats, sense?
norg [3k\]: 7d beat Jie Li => Andy is indestructible
MythRealm [1k\]: only 2 satones differense...
Ceiter [1k\]: AGA ranks top out at 7d.
soulspirit [3k?\]: b has more threats
Cassis0 [5d\]: e8
mcw85 [7k\]: Strong 7d weak 8p.
siulongbao [6k\]: butt
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Because, 8p is not equivalent to strength, only marks accomplishments in a pro career.
siulongbao [6k\]: ohh
evanj [2d\]: siu, he beat a 9p last night
Fenix [2d\]: g10
Ceiter [1k\]: Andy;s AGA rating is actual over 9
Tulkas [12k\]: it´s because you have watched too much hng
lonsan [1k\]: thousand?
siulongbao [6k\]: oh wow ..
Rocker [4d\]: guess b still wins cu it wins the ko
jm1107 [3k\]: how much time?
Hightway [7k\]: andy is one of the stronger amateur
Over9k [2k\]: oh man
SergeyASh [12k\]: s19 ?
siulongbao [6k\]: so 7d is the strongest ?
SunnyD [2d\]: over 9000?
Rocker [4d\]: cuz*
daal [8k\]: weak 8p, lol
watergun [-\]: fengyun?
amadis [?\]: i am pretty amazed actually that an 18 year old american who as far as i know has not received pro training has any kind of a chance against these very experienced pros
Eeplord: what's hng? is that a go channel?
evanj [2d\]: 7d is strongest official rating in aga
ozeh: hikaru no go 
JeanVidToi [6k\]: e10 
evanj [2d\]: but w's numerical rating is 9 dan
RikazeMA [24k?\]: It's an anime, eeplord
MChow [6k\]: k13  threat
danigabi [6d\]: andy is a go genius for sure
Eeplord: oh...
Fenix [2d\]: ggg101010
nazendaali [7k\]: maybe andy watched too much hng, and now has san by his side, or whatever was his name
DerWitt [2d?\]: didnt w have any local threats i mean for the  c3 ko
siulongbao [6k\]: andy is rly strong yes ?
MChow [6k\]: K13!!
Daoloth [-\]: f6 looks like a nice threat
]
;W[dj]C[Over9k [2k\]: p16 
sensemaker [4d\]: ya.. amazing andy..
Jubilex [2k\]: "weak 8p" is almost an oxymoron heh
]
;B[ej]
;W[cj]C[kiusasori [2d\]: q17 local threat
danigabi [6d\]: he did get training from feng uyn as i understand
norg [3k\]: ...
lonsan [1k\]: uh
SunnyD [2d\]: 8 years ago, he was still a kyu
Over9k [2k\]: opps miscilck
soulspirit [3k?\]: ???
Godaisuki [1k\]: ..............
Werfeus [5d\]: new ko
Sgarobo [6k\]: b f10
Godaisuki [1k\]: c10???
amadis [?\]: yeah but i mean he didnt go through insei schooling and all that
GoGetta [-\]: 8 years ago?????
USGO1 [-\]: Andy Lui's rating- 9.34
JeanVidToi [6k\]: t17 
watergun [-\]: did andy beat fengyun last night?
siulongbao [6k\]: 9.34 ?
norg [3k\]: Should have taken the ko?
Tsumugari [4k\]: c10 ?
]
;B[fi]C[siulongbao [6k\]: sry i dont know wat that means
]
;W[sc]C[GoGetta [-\]: How long has white been playing Go?
evanj [2d\]: it means solid 9 dan
lonsan [1k\]: more ko threats now
]
;B[cc]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: haha
DerWitt [2d?\]: oh
norg [3k\]: Yes. He had an unwinnable situation, made a ko then won
Isobeutel [2d?\]: take
PauliussMM [1k\]: incredible match
SunnyD [2d\]: trade
siulongbao [6k\]: ignore
fatihsulak [2d\]: easy game for black 
UFGS [3d\]: numerous ko threats now
Denniskutl [3d\]: why f11?
Daoloth [-\]: take
PinotNero [2k\]: Q17?
IGoofy [1d\]: maybe b just got his p rank from rated blitz games
Ophelia [-\]: big crowd gathering now.
norg [3k\]: b18 only response.
DerWitt [2d?\]: many threats for b there
soulspirit [3k?\]: fll cause he scared of the big bad wolf
Long88 [2d\]: so many twist and turn
soulspirit [3k?\]: f11*
JeanVidToi [6k\]: q17 
RikazeMA [24k?\]: This is a beautiful game...
lonsan [1k\]: impossible for w to win this ko...
evanj [2d\]: wow look at all those people watching haha
Greyish [1d\]: dennis, read what happens if w e9 then
SergeyASh [12k\]: will acceptes?
Eeplord: are they playing irl or is this just online?
Korea4K [2d\]: Kim is cool
quasimoyo [1d\]: nice camera
Cassis0 [5d\]: maybe w can win if q17
GoGetta [-\]: Lol look at the crowd
PinotNero [2k\]: time to reisgn
RikazeMA [24k?\]: rl, eeplord
Ophelia [-\]: get your head out of the way!
RikazeMA [24k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
soulspirit [3k?\]: woman!!
RikazeMA [24k?\]: you can watch there.
evanj [2d\]: hey move it
holycarp [-\]:  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
UFGS [3d\]: move your head
Eeplord: cool
Ophelia [-\]: max, smack that kid.
ecgotf [6k\]: tell the idiot to get away from the camera
Karcusrd [7k\]: I hope the table can handle the weight
GoGetta [-\]: Kick his head
Spiele1000 [3k\]: upper right bigger than upper left?
soulspirit [3k?\]: lol
lonsan [1k\]: but w needs both
Fenix [2d\]: how many people are in that room?
norg [3k\]: w needs both to win
lonsan [1k\]: or w loses
SergeyASh [12k\]: b anyway get upper right
SallyGross [18k?\]: have I got it right ... offer of exchange, gain in upper l for w ion return for serious loss of territory on upper r ?
Daoloth [-\]: i think upper left had some potential even without this ko
Spectateur: Can you link live tournament url ?
Spectateur: USGO
UFGS [3d\]: W cannot let that survive to win
rvrey [7k\]: w need to kill top left and win the ko
Haven [9k?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Korea4K [2d\]: resign pls
Sgarobo [6k\]: w e9 is sent, for now
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Spectateur: Thx :)
Narayana [5k\]: is this the final?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
lonsan [1k\]: no, round 5 of 6
Narayana [5k\]: thx
MssrBlanc [3k\]: there's isn't really a final--it's determined by score at the end
quasimoyo [1d\]: how much time left?
Eeplord: round robin?
lonsan [1k\]: no
MssrBlanc [3k\]: not quite--too many players for a round robin
lonsan [1k\]: swiss mcmahon probably
Phear [3d\]: yes
Rocker [4d\]: no  matter b wins or not i dont think its very common to see an amateur stirred up an losing game this way way against a 8p 
MssrBlanc [3k\]: yes, swiss
jm1107 [3k\]: How much TIME left?
SallyGross [18k?\]: I meant w gains in upper r where the ko is now ... sorry
]
;W[cd]C[Daoloth [-\]: maybe w could afford c16 now
]
;B[sd]C[startgo1 [3k\]: nooooooooooooooooooooo
]
;W[ek]C[Haven [9k?\]: O.o
Kumoriha [-\]: He responded
soulspirit [3k?\]: good
B3nji [6k\]: fightttttttttttttttttt
Ophelia [-\]: yay.
]
;B[dm]
;W[sc]C[IGoofy [1d\]: what a rumgedaddel
TheCount [2d?\]: did b really need this complication?
quasimoyo [1d\]: playing fast now
danigabi [6d\]: i think b still ahead
Mukti [4d\]: if b lives in the TR as compensation he wins big....w must go all out
lonsan [1k\]: even if w gets both, dani?
]
;B[bd]C[danigabi [6d\]: if he gets adequate compensation
fatihsulak [2d\]: i think blac ahaed 
kimlongVN [3k?\]: 2ko
fatihsulak [2d\]: black 
sensemaker [4d\]: are you tartrate fan dani?
kimlongVN [3k?\]: b res
GeorgeW [-\]: Yea Gabriel, it seems Black is slightly better
danigabi [6d\]: not really, why?
kimlongVN [3k?\]: 2 k0
Fenix [2d\]: w has many outstanding threats
watergun [-\]: did andy beat fengyun last night?
PinotNero [2k\]: b win why resign? lol
Phear [3d\]: yes watergun
GoGetta [-\]: intense
USGO1 [-\]: Black has 12 minutes, white has 33.
watergun [-\]: thanks, phear.
Isobeutel [2d?\]: thx
calm [5k\]: B can start ko in UL hard to see him lose both.
PinotNero [2k\]: no byoyomi?
]
;W[be]
;B[sd]C[MChow [6k\]: where is w's 2nd eye in e6  group???????
SunnyD [2d\]: where did B use his time?
Hightway [7k\]:  01mp^F6
]
;W[gj]C[norg [3k\]: q17  FTW!
evanj [2d\]: nowhere, mchow, it's dead
lonsan [1k\]: where's the first eye
Werfeus [5d\]: no calm, he cant
Haven [9k?\]: O.o
soulspirit [3k?\]: wth w doing...
Haven [9k?\]: that works
PinotNero [2k\]: valid ko threat
ikea [2d\]: didn't he jus skip a threat?
Goury [2k\]: threat to live
Sgarobo [6k\]: b e7
sensemaker [4d\]: F8!!
Hightway [7k\]: there is a trap i think
Babibo2: why not f10 first ? 
gumcolem [?\]: the guy standing on the left is wearing white socks with sandals
Jubilex [2k\]: soulspirit: white is desperate, trying to complicate matters
huggy [3k\]: this wont work
gumcolem [?\]: that's just terrible.
PinotNero [2k\]: b need F10
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10 doesn't work
Isobeutel [2d?\]: lol gum
soulspirit [3k?\]: for w
Haven [9k?\]: o.O
lonsan [1k\]: f10 obviously works as a threat
pewpew [8k\]: so what's w's followup if b takes the ko
Phear [3d\]: live
mcw85 [7k\]: f10 
Haven [9k?\]: hax
Goury [2k\]: f10 e11 e8
Fenix [2d\]: why didnt w pla f10 first, then g10, for threats?
Werfeus [5d\]: s19 f10 f7 e11 b wins right..
sensemaker [4d\]: bluffsuji ?
lonsan [1k\]: yeah, it works...but b still wins the game?
Korea4K [2d\]: ignore
danigabi [6d\]: no
danigabi [6d\]: cant ignore!!!
GoGetta [-\]: Cant igore
danigabi [6d\]: s19 f10 e11 f7 
harlej9 [2k\]: g10 is it a threat?
quasimoyo [1d\]: e8 f7
GoGetta [-\]: f10 atari
danigabi [6d\]: oh wait..
PinotNero [2k\]: is there any byo-yomi?
erkkierkki [7k\]: cat ignore
danigabi [6d\]: F7 doesnt work..
jesus95 [5k\]: black can cut apart e6 and g8
Mukti [4d\]: if b ignores, w F10, connect, w F6 lives
quasimoyo [1d\]: why not?
mcw85 [7k\]: B has ten minutes.
Werfeus [5d\]: F6 works dani
Denniskutl [3d\]: ignore f10 e11 f6 
SunnyD [2d\]: Andy using distract by clock strategy
USGO1 [-\]: Black just reached 10 minutes basic time.
mcw85 [7k\]: The clcock said so.
]
;B[fm]C[Sgarobo [6k\]: b e8 w f7 b f6
Isobeutel [2d?\]: i like this clock...
Werfeus [5d\]: but no E11 dani!
]
;W[sc]C[evanj [2d\]: ah my move
GoGetta [-\]: Timesuji!
]
;B[bb]C[Haven [9k?\]: o.O
PinotNero [2k\]: b win :)
]
;W[db]C[fivelover [3k\]: ohh
Tim5k: nero: check options/rules
]
;B[sd]C[danigabi [6d\]: f7 is needed, else w plays F6
GoGetta [-\]: f10 
]
;W[hi]
;B[ij]
;W[sc]C[Phear [3d\]: b so many threats in top left x.x
PinotNero [2k\]: it is not a live game... but telecast
soulspirit [3k?\]: lots of threats by w now
Kumoriha [-\]: Always with the kos >_>
]
;B[dc]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: w has f20
Vash3G [-\]: this is a live game
xedover [5k?\]: it IS a live game
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10
GoGetta [-\]: Its live
Mukti [4d\]: so many threats there....
norg [3k\]: c18 ?
]
;W[eb]C[Ophelia [-\]: no pinot, this is happening now
]
;B[sd]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: f10
YukiStone [2k\]: whats the link to the stream?
Ophelia [-\]: live telecast
norg [3k\]: q17 !!!!!!!
RikazeMA [24k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
CookieMon [11k\]: f7 was crucial
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
PinotNero [2k\]: i mean a scribe is inputting the game
Thorvald [7k\]: f6 is a menace ?
Denniskutl [3d\]: e6 group was such a pain for black :-)
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
YukiStone [2k\]: thanks
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10 works now
sensemaker [4d\]: black lost some points with top left
lonsan [1k\]: f10?
PinotNero [2k\]: so the time setting here means nothing
Wizzos [2k\]: q17
USGO1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
GoGetta [-\]: f10!!
R [1k\]: telecast doesn't work for me today :(
TomPioter [10k\]: time?
MChow [6k\]: k13 !!!
evanj [2d\]: can w really hold off b in both corners??
DerWitt [2d?\]: e11
soulspirit [3k?\]: yeah f20
SunnyD [2d\]: time to rope off the people!
PinotNero [2k\]: b in time trouble... omg
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10*
PinotNero [2k\]: poor kim
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10 works if you read it out
GoGetta [-\]: Timesuji!
Goury [2k\]: gogetta is awful and mean
DerWitt [2d?\]: q17?
SergeyASh [12k\]: k13 ?
Phear [3d\]: why poor kim?  he has plenty of threats
Karcusrd [7k\]: click popout
bsaltman [3k\]: k13/
GoGetta [-\]: Lol what?
evanj [2d\]: no it doesn't soulspirit
Fenix [2d\]: L14
PinotNero [2k\]: i pity kim if he runs out of time
R [1k\]: may be too many viewers on this ustream-channel?
danigabi [6d\]: its admirable how w found life i bottom left
soulspirit [3k?\]: yes it does
soulspirit [3k?\]: it work
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10
Goury [2k\]: you and your links.. meh it's just mean
Fenix [2d\]: he's a pro, pinotnero, so no nee
sensemaker [4d\]: can someone wake me up after the ko is over
evanj [2d\]: how does it work??
Fenix [2d\]: d
DerWitt [2d?\]: f10 prob too small
lonsan [1k\]: but the ko is the most exciting part
soulspirit [3k?\]: f10 enables life for w
PinotNero [2k\]: pro is not used to amatuer tourney...
soulspirit [3k?\]: if b ignores
SunnyD [2d\]: why is W thinking now?
PinotNero [2k\]: might really run out of time...
FishOn [4k\]: f10 doesnt work
evanj [2d\]: well, if b ignores, obviously
fatihsulak [2d\]: what about l14 
evanj [2d\]: it's a ko threat
GoGetta [-\]: I want white to win but then i want black to win
tinca [-\]: can someone eake me up when my life is over?
soulspirit [3k?\]: duh
Fenix [2d\]: R9 also a threat?
Wizzos [2k\]: q17 clean internal threat
soulspirit [3k?\]: i meant f10 as a ko threat
danigabi [6d\]: F10 works as a threat but it loses points
Gresil [-\]: but with f4, g5 and d6 all open to black, how can e5 be an eye?
danigabi [6d\]: so w is avoiding such a move
nhhm [2d?\]: w q17
Karcusrd [7k\]: click the link if you dont see the video click popout and wait then watch ko fight
Sgarobo [6k\]: I think even ib black lost both top corners is ahead...
DerWitt [2d?\]: q17 beat by now
Gresil [-\]: sorry, not g5, f6
norg [3k\]: q17 is the move
KlerChazal [-\]: l14 ?
Meareal [4k\]: is it close if w wins the ko?
]
;W[hh]C[Daoloth [-\]: s19 looks interesting
soulspirit [3k?\]: he won;t q17
DerWitt [2d?\]: what?
GoGetta [-\]: f10 lead to another ko threat at f6
Thorvald [7k\]: lol
Long88 [2d\]: we need to have pics of aga member
lokki [3d\]: wat
soulspirit [3k?\]: he won't q17 yet
Long88 [2d\]: i see females standing
PinotNero [2k\]: >>>
soulspirit [3k?\]: it shows desperation
PinotNero [2k\]: ???
GoGetta [-\]: Black is lagging on time
PinotNero [2k\]: wtf is this?
soulspirit [3k?\]: so he won';t q17
lokki [3d\]: this is no treat
GeorgeW [-\]: Is this a threat?
soulspirit [3k?\]: till the end
norg [3k\]: How are the players doing for time?
KlerChazal [-\]: 9d threat
Mukti [4d\]: Que? 
Goury [2k\]: ignore
]
;B[eg]C[danigabi [6d\]: u sure its not threat??
SunnyD [2d\]: H12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
]
;W[sc]C[GeorgeW [-\]: Damaging
]
;B[cb]
;W[ac]C[mcw85 [7k\]: What was the threat, dani?
]
;B[sd]C[Mukti [4d\]: That cost a lot
danigabi [6d\]: its very damaging yes
Thorvald [7k\]: trying to kill H14 group  ?
Albast [9k\]: if it was a threat then it lost points
]
;W[fn]C[danigabi [6d\]: G13 was the follow up
evanj [2d\]: w can connect if b ignores h12
IGoofy [1d\]: b already fears ws reading power
]
;B[em]
;W[sc]C[Eeplord: woot
]
;B[ad]
;W[ca]
;B[sd]C[Mukti [4d\]: B just enjoys his wealth of threats
PinotNero [2k\]: b win ko
PinotNero [2k\]: too many threats
Jubilex [2k\]: white knows this ko is all or nothing, so he really has no choice with these damaging threats
huggy [3k\]: yes
holycarp [-\]: pros will fear him after the feng young defeat ^^
huggy [3k\]: b has another two threats
Goury [2k\]: wonder l14 is enough for this ko or not
GoGetta [-\]: q9 ????????????
monk316 [1k\]: at least 3 more threats in top right
eggedr [6k?\]: why not q17?
ponticello [2k\]: respect, not fear
PinotNero [2k\]: lol
soulspirit [3k?\]: q17 shows desperation
raifu [3k\]: same thing
soulspirit [3k?\]: he won't do it till the end
sensemaker [4d\]: surely fear
PinotNero [2k\]: kim fear Lee Chang Ho, yes
Omniscient [1k\]: why desperation?...
Omniscient [1k\]: local threats should always be palyed out first, no?
Wizzos [2k\]: q17 is a threat like others
Fenix [2d\]: w can dance the moonwalk
bsaltman [3k\]: IS B C15 ANYTHING?
YukiStone [2k\]: k13
Long88 [2d\]: Lee chang ho fear lee sedol yes
GoGetta [-\]: ahhhh so intense
IGoofy [1d\]: sedol is out
carbon729 [3d\]: sedol will be out for one year
PinotNero [2k\]: when u lose 10 in a row to someone...u fear him
TheCount [2d?\]: is k13 big enough?
cloud [2d\]: seems like b is winning by a lot
carbon729 [3d\]: so he can play ama games...
B3nji [6k\]: how many handi need w for beat b?
sensemaker [4d\]: lee sedol fears God
golgo13 [12k\]: sedol is doing bobby fisher
Fenix [2d\]: how about w q17 for a change?
andg99 [?\]: sedol lost nto a 16 year korean on tygem
Meareal [4k\]: q17?
carbon729 [3d\]: the world strongest ama.... lee sedol
]
;W[ra]C[Thorvald [7k\]: w should say a joke
Narayana [5k\]: ?
Godaisuki [1k\]: ......................
PinotNero [2k\]: ???
lokki [3d\]: oooooooo
norg [3k\]: ?
Haven [9k?\]: O.o
soulspirit [3k?\]: good move
Narayana [5k\]: anoyjer ko?
GoGetta [-\]: n18 ?
Omniscient [1k\]: is it possible that W hasn't seen Q17 threat?
soulspirit [3k?\]: b dead if he fill sin ko
Haven [9k?\]: no
Eeplord: no
Goury [2k\]: n3nji, I think andy proved that he can play against pros in equal ground no matter he loses or not
evanj [2d\]: no
PinotNero [2k\]: can R19 work?
Haven [9k?\]: lol
Wizzos [2k\]: b has to p16
R [1k\]: is s19 ko-threat?
B3nji [6k\]: ok
SunnyD [2d\]: T19 infinite ko threats!!!
lokki [3d\]: ignore
anapazapa [2d\]: w suddenly realizes an internal kothreat or what?
PinotNero [2k\]: w using time tactic or wat???
Korea4K [2d\]: The strongst  is Guri
]
;B[qa]C[HandA [1k\]: b can n18?
PinotNero [2k\]: play strange move to complicate the game?
Draxt [7k\]: but Q17 then P17 then white doesn't need P16?
PinotNero [2k\]: lol
]
;W[pa]C[lokki [3d\]: wow
PinotNero [2k\]:  i m strong :)
dfgd: wow
Haven [9k?\]: omg
Jubilex [2k\]: not reall an internal threats, more than a switch of kos I think
Kumoriha [-\]: Oh great...
holycarp [-\]: woaaa
Ranye [9k\]: can b t17?
PinotNero [2k\]: i think w is screwed
Dogen [5k\]: making a dead eye space shape?
Dogen [5k\]: with R19?
evanj [2d\]: old ko was boring
evanj [2d\]: tthis one is cooler
Wizzos [2k\]: w is killing b, simply
Haven [9k?\]: lmfao
Haven [9k?\]: needz moar ko!
cloud [2d\]: is it a ko if w just connects?
norg [3k\]: b t17 leads to dead eyeshape
takamifan [4k\]: andy must win!
derp [1k\]: it'll be seki
Fenix [2d\]: m18..
Long88 [2d\]: if andy win, this will be epic
Infection [5k\]: if b lives i think he wins
PinotNero [2k\]: w is like being gang raped now...
Annunaki [-\]: b+30,5
derp [1k\]: at worst
raifu [3k\]: that'd be 3 epics in 2 days
Sgarobo [6k\]: if b t17 is save - is not it?
pendulum [3k\]: p19 t17 q17 t19 r19 ?
kiusasori [2d\]: yesterday, andy won against feng yun 9p with white
Fenix [2d\]: move it, kim
DerWitt [2d?\]: move it?
holycarp [-\]: it was epic yesterday feng yung is stronger than this 8p
Long88 [2d\]: time to bring in sai
monk316 [1k\]: USGO1, can you tell us the time situation?
Dogen [5k\]: even if W wins the ko, the game is still close
Karcusrd [7k\]: I hate to see captured stones laying around free on the table
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;B[oa]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: If b t17, he loses five stones all at once.
Eeplord: lol
GoGetta [-\]: Andy must not play serious on kgs
Phear [3d\]: i'm pretty sure this 8p could beat feng yun carp
Kirigo: W dead
Kumoriha [-\]: Even if white wins the ko, there'll be another ko =/
DerWitt [2d?\]: oh man
clanogrady [3k\]: yup
Phear [3d\]: o17
norg [3k\]: t17?
ponticello [2k\]: where can I find a transcript of the fen-yun andy game? which USGO account?
Thorvald [7k\]: p16?
Ophelia [-\]: this just broke my brain.
Gresil [-\]: maybe this'll turn into another 350+ move korgy
Kumoriha [-\]: USGO1, ponticello
ponticello [2k\]: thanks
MChow [6k\]: doulble ko
Vash3G [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Err, misread that...
Korea4K [2d\]: b  alive by ko
R [1k\]: sure, w misread
Tulkas [12k\]: usgo1 of course
Haven [9k?\]: okay, w just needs to make one more ko
Vash3G [-\]: results and full crosstab from the North American Ing MAsters
SunnyD [2d\]: Kim is snickering
Haven [9k?\]: XD
Sgarobo [6k\]: why b does not t17? why they play so difficult???
norg [3k\]: Was it Feng Yun and andy who went to 394 moves?
Tulkas [12k\]: what other should it be lol
danigabi [6d\]: because he dies
GoGetta [-\]: Time left for black?????
raifu [3k\]: no it was eric lui 
Gresil [-\]: andy and eric lui
huggy [3k\]: can someone give me the sequence why t17 was wrong?
KlerChazal [-\]: not it was against eric lui
Dogen [5k\]: if T 17, B connects at Q17
carbon729 [3d\]: t17 black can q17
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;W[pc]C[Haven [9k?\]: O.O
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Ohhh, ho ho ho.
golgo13 [12k\]: b dead
]
;B[oc]C[GoGetta [-\]: How did they get to 394 O.o
]
;W[sc]C[danigabi [6d\]: its still ko
quasimoyo [1d\]: b19
DerWitt [2d?\]: yes still ko
fatihsulak [2d\]: under the stones
JeanVidToi [6k\]: b19 
mcw85 [7k\]: Why did w q17?
]
;B[mp]C[kimlongVN [3k?\]: b win
Korea4K [2d\]: w cant ko win
Daoloth [-\]: maybe he's trying to make a double ko
kimlongVN [3k?\]: so many k0 for blak
danigabi [6d\]: for the potentiall event of black o17 becomig sente for eye, mc
Albast [9k\]: hm, ignore ?
Fenix [2d\]: o2
eggedr [6k?\]: no
eggedr [6k?\]: if he ignores he will lose
monk316 [1k\]: 2 step ko for b?
GoGetta [-\]: is USGO10 reviewing the game?
DerWitt [2d?\]: i get headache from watching
lonsan [1k\]: gogetta: yes
Vash3G [-\]: yes they are
GoGetta [-\]: k
quasimoyo [1d\]: o2
Thorvald [7k\]: still f10 for w
Vash3G [-\]: Lee Hajin is reviewing the game
mcw85 [7k\]: Why not use it as ko threat, though, dani?
lemming [-\]: is the game still going on?
cloud [2d\]: ignore possible
ponticello [2k\]: who is USGO10 please?
Fenix [2d\]: imho e11 better than f10 for threat
ponticello [2k\]: Lee Hajin?
Vash3G [-\]: USGO10 is Lee Hajin and Chris Garlock
calm [5k\]: Isn't B tartrate?
xedover [5k?\]: no
DerWitt [2d?\]: take
GoGetta [-\]: Rank????
Vash3G [-\]: Takemiya Masaki is also watching the game
KlerChazal [-\]: what if : b : q17 r19 n18 ?
Dogen [5k\]: if W takes, he loses the bottom center
holycarp [-\]: b is not atartrate
Daoloth [-\]: o2 & fight to the bitter end
expat [4d?\]: w can't lose the bottom like this
Korea4K [2d\]: b is not on internet go
expat [4d?\]: but he's running out of ko threats :S
Fenix [2d\]: didnt kgs admin dr straw confirmed that b was tartrate?
baltimore [2k\]: b totally is tartrate...
holycarp [-\]: myand deny and javanases too
mcw85 [7k\]: If you believe his contrived story...
Albast [9k\]: is there a ko at the bottom if white ignores ?
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;W[nr]
;B[sd]C[GoGetta [-\]: How long was he tartrate???????
]
;W[gg]C[Albast [9k\]: nm
Fenix [2d\]: so drstraw is just a liar
Haven [9k?\]: O.o
takamifan [4k\]: andy must prevail!
expat [4d?\]: w is playing expensive threats
holycarp [-\]: dinerchtein also 
cloud [2d\]: this is expensive?
Rocker [4d\]: ah dame connexion
Infection [5k\]: low on time
USGO1 [-\]: Black at 5 minutes basic time.
baltimore [2k\]: i asked him if he was, and he's like, "I'm not supposed to say"
jshkay [7k\]: is that even a ko threat
expat [4d?\]: plying from the inside is expensive, yes
danigabi [6d\]: seems to lose 2 points
expat [4d?\]: playing*
Infection [5k\]: what is white at
Infection [5k\]: timewise
GoGetta [-\]: Blacks game always make me want to take a nap after 
mcw85 [7k\]: Neither are liars. Dinerstein conjectured and DrStraw could just be wrong. Anyway, doesn't matter.
Dogen [5k\]: G14, then he cuts B in two
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Heh, that's funny, me too, gogetta
Over9k [2k\]: luckily it's around midnight here
jshkay [7k\]: who care dogen
]
;B[gf]C[jshkay [7k\]: won't b beat both groups
xedover [5k?\]: more than 10 mins, Infection
]
;W[sc]C[Dogen [5k\]: apparantely B cares, because he connected
GoGetta [-\]: Dinerstein seem obsessed with tartrate
evanj [2d\]: he doens't seem to be the only one
holycarp [-\]: because he got owned by him
xedover [5k?\]: lol
Tsumugari [4k\]: who is tartare ?
danigabi [6d\]: What is Andy Lius go biography? how did he get so strong?
Eeplord: whats tartrate?
USGO1 [-\]: White at 22 minutes.
Over9k [2k\]: d13 looks cool for white
Haven [9k?\]: tartrate sauce
Eeplord: is it good?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: tartrat is a legendary player on kgs
evanj [2d\]: d13 not a threat
mcw85 [7k\]: Is B in byo-yomi?
Haven [9k?\]: yes
calvinlee [-\]: andy is known as the skinny nerd among youth
calvinlee [-\]: :)
quasimoyo [1d\]: almost seems at the last game with the time
Eeplord: oh hes a player
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;B[ba]C[Hightway [7k\]: tartrate is the best go player ever on kgs
Haven [9k?\]: lol
evanj [2d\]: oh wait, yes it is
SallyGross [18k?\]: chemical substance, not tartare
StormRider [1d\]: Eeplord : tartrate is the god of kgs
Sagara02 [2d\]: tartrate is a sauce for the steak
Over9k [2k\]: lol that's mean calvin
Eeplord: Who is he in real life?
calvinlee [-\]: no no, thats his nickname
watergun [-\]: because andy liu is an asian. ;)
squirrels [12k?\]: why didn
calvinlee [-\]: he wears it with pride
Infection [5k\]: do you know him calvin
calm [5k\]: These beginners so iignorant of KGS history.
calvinlee [-\]: haha ya
ponticello [2k\]: tartrate is the active chemical in gree ntea
Over9k [2k\]: btw did u go to PII?
Narayana [5k\]: is ignoring that and letting it live worth the ko?
Over9k [2k\]: i forget
Tsumugari [4k\]: white must q17
calvinlee [-\]: no i didk
calvinlee [-\]: didnt*
SallyGross [18k?\]: ignoring it isn't worth it
Over9k [2k\]: k
quasimoyo [1d\]: white still has f10
calvinlee [-\]: over9k = sida??
jshkay [7k\]: i say w should ignore
kiusasori [2d\]: a18 
jshkay [7k\]: take r17
Ceptryn [1d\]: white still has threats
Ceptryn [1d\]: D-13
SergeyASh [12k\]: w must accept imho
Over9k [2k\]: no it's stacy
Daoloth [-\]: a15 
golgo13 [12k\]: tartrate is yuu changhyuk
Ceptryn [1d\]: and L-14
Fenix [2d\]: a18 go
R [1k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tartrate
monk316 [1k\]: letting top left live is better than top right
squirrels [12k?\]: f10 should have been his move
quasimoyo [1d\]: and black m4 i think
Tsumugari [4k\]: e11 is better
Over9k [2k\]: I got really good at go this summer
kiusasori [2d\]: w still have threat at d13, e11, l14 etc
calm [5k\]: When is the next game?
Bubarik [1k\]: not enoughf is corner lives i think
expat [4d?\]: tartrate is a sauce dyslexics have with fish
Dogen [5k\]: W has plenty of threats in center
lonsan [1k\]: a15?
monk316 [1k\]: but ko is 2 step
GoGetta [-\]: Bigbadwolf has been 9d since he made is bigbadwolf account
GoGetta [-\]: *his
Daoloth [-\]: nevermind a15 is too soft
squirrels [12k?\]: e11
Gryning [4k\]: anyone know his handle before bbw?
Dogen [5k\]: a 15 leaves another threat for B
Dogen [5k\]: A18 the only response 
lonsan [1k\]: there's another one either way
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;W[pc]C[es005k [4k?\]: doesn't black have c15 after this?
Dogen [5k\]: boom!
lonsan [1k\]: oh wow
]
;B[ab]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: ah
Yoseki [3k?\]: O.O
]
;W[dg]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: here we go
Tsumugari [4k\]: nor reduce
]
;B[fg]
;W[ae]
;B[bc]C[lonsan [1k\]: b win?
Kuros [8k\]: time for some serious reductions in sente
fivelover [3k\]: so
jshkay [7k\]: can't argue w/ that move
Yoseki [3k?\]: B+2
fivelover [3k\]: w  won?
Fenix [2d\]: q9
GoGetta [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?TartrateGossip it says tartrate was micheal jackson O.o
ajistorm [1d\]: b6
fivelover [3k\]: b won?
Thorvald [7k\]: o8 big
Long88 [2d\]: now endgame
Hideto [3k\]: s12
Over9k [2k\]: white needs really good endgame
lonsan [1k\]: is it even close?
soulspirit [3k?\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: I think B center too large.
SallyGross [18k?\]: b's comfortably ahead, no?
Omniscient [1k\]: fortunately, w does hae good endgame
calvinlee [-\]: its probably over
James007 [13k\]: HIIH
James007 [13k\]: HI
globax [4d\]: o8 before s12
James007 [13k\]: HI
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;W[pk]C[James007 [13k\]: EDJGG
tinca [-\]: MJ is an ET (see MIB)
bsaltman [3k\]: SE has b by 20.5
James007 [13k\]: SRGH
James007 [13k\]: HEARHRE
Mukti [4d\]: Nw 20+ ahead....
James007 [13k\]: HGRAH
Fenix [2d\]: hah
James007 [13k\]: ER
James007 [13k\]: H
James007 [13k\]: RHG
soulspirit [3k?\]: ban james
James007 [13k\]: ESG
James007 [13k\]: HR
James007 [13k\]: H
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;B[pj]C[James007 [13k\]: RR
James007 [13k\]: HEH
GoGetta [-\]: Kicking me is not cool
calm [5k\]: Goodbye 007
squirrels [12k?\]: s7
Ceptryn [1d\]: I think white should have fought ko further
danigabi [6d\]: b is ahead
Ceptryn [1d\]: tho he isn't losing by 20 pts
holycarp [-\]: what a shame for all the bond fans
Ceptryn [1d\]: SE
Haven [9k?\]: se fails
expat [4d?\]: black had too many threats around c15
Ceptryn [1d\]: is not accurate here
Pan [3d?\]: where is the competition?
Long88 [2d\]: we should have animated boot so we can be satisfied of destroying evils
]
;W[ph]C[danigabi [6d\]: less than 10 but more than 5
sweety [-\]: Please behave, then
Pan [3d?\]: which city?
Gresil [-\]: i count b 113, w 106
Over9k [2k\]: nice
ponticello [2k\]: Arlington,VA
Haven [9k?\]: q 12 is O.O
Vash3G [-\]: Fairfax, VA
soulspirit [3k?\]: it's good
ponticello [2k\]: of sry
bERt0r [11k\]: yeah, i thought s12
soulspirit [3k?\]: q12 is very good
GoGetta [-\]: o8 !
Isobeutel [2d?\]: whats the byoyomi?
kiusasori [2d\]: w 104.5 b 108 i my count
Pan [3d?\]: k
mcw85 [7k\]: 5x30sec
Gay [5d\]: has b win all of his games?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: thx
XSpanier [1k\]: both
ponticello [2k\]: 5x 1min I thought
USGO1 [-\]: Not Arlington. Fairfax. GMU
Over9k [2k\]: both are undefeated
mcw85 [7k\]: B and W are 4-0
Gresil [-\]: i think both have won all their games
expat [4d?\]: i count B+5 at the moment
lonsan [1k\]: 5x30 in the open, 5x1min in the naim i think
SunnyD [2d\]: how much $ is first?
Vade [2k\]: I counted 3 for white and 2 for black
soulspirit [3k?\]: no
soulspirit [3k?\]: w will win
Long88 [2d\]: this is still close
squirrels [12k?\]: o13
Vade [2k\]: I'm sure there's more but I got bored
Kuros [8k\]: how are they on time atm?
norg [3k\]: r13 
Sgarobo [6k\]: me too about... wow I count like a 5d !!
Annunaki [-\]: 5000
Fenix [2d\]: andy liu can do
Ophelia [-\]: oh! I step away for a minute and anerything changes.
Korea4K [2d\]: R11 sente
Ophelia [-\]: *everything
daal [8k\]: why is se so far off?
Fenix [2d\]: ophelia... noooooo
takamifan [4k\]: andy shall conquers
Annunaki [-\]: anerdything
Long88 [2d\]: this is like 0.5 
USGO1 [-\]: 1 minute basic time for black, 17 for white.
Long88 [2d\]: game
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;B[qi]C[jSd [8k\]: andy forget
soulspirit [3k?\]: big
TomPioter [10k\]: time?
]
;W[og]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Kim seemed unhappy with that...
Ophelia [-\]: oh, Ing clock is talking.
jSd [8k\]: j13 threat
Rocker [4d\]: my super precise count indicates this game is gonna be won by black by 1.5
Mukti [4d\]: I think se is pretty well on the mark
GoGetta [-\]: Most of blacks games didnt have a big ko
jSd [8k\]: k*
play234 [-\]: what does SE say?
csgo [?\]: why not r13?
soulspirit [3k?\]: bleads by bit
soulspirit [3k?\]: 5?
Mukti [4d\]: I think b will win by at least wo points
Haven [9k?\]: why does r 13 failz?
Mukti [4d\]: 10*
SallyGross [18k?\]: what's coming is big
Fenix [2d\]: o8?
squirrels [12k?\]: there's your two points
Over9k [2k\]: there goes white sente
Ceptryn [1d\]: not good for white
quasimoyo [1d\]: p9?
GoGetta [-\]: o8 !!!!
Ceptryn [1d\]: that's gote
Korea4K [2d\]: O8 bigst
SergeyASh [12k\]: o8 ?
ponticello [2k\]: SE is on the wrong scoring system...and as someone says counts like a drunk 20k anyway.
evanj [2d\]: b r13 w r11
USGO1 [-\]: Black in byo-yomi
kiusasori [2d\]: s13 big too
IGoofy [1d\]: a17
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;B[nl]C[soulspirit [3k?\]: i think all the pros have been ordered to lose games to the amateurs on purpose
Ophelia [-\]: B is in Byo-Yomi now?
mcw85 [7k\]: Kill. That. Clock.
GoGetta [-\]: Timesuji!
Hideto [3k\]: e12
csgo [?\]: then b s11
DerWitt [2d?\]: O8 WAS SO BIG
Over9k [2k\]: ouch
GoGetta [-\]: s7 
Isobeutel [2d?\]: b in byoyomi, yes
Ophelia [-\]: ty
Dogen [5k\]: which is bigger for W? S7 or T11?
soulspirit [3k?\]: w still has alot
Isobeutel [2d?\]: 5 x 30 sec
Arhiman [2k\]: j2
mcw85 [7k\]: o8 game over?
USGO1 [-\]: White resigns!
norg [3k\]: Can w still win?
Hideto [3k\]: e12 sente
koram [7d\]: b doesn't need time any more
SergeyASh [12k\]: t11 ?
norg [3k\]: That'll be no...
Kumoriha [-\]: Noooo! ><
mcw85 [7k\]: Guess so.
GoGetta [-\]: resign?
norg [3k\]: :( :( :(
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Shame...
soulspirit [3k?\]: no resign
Annunaki [-\]: resign
norg [3k\]: D: D: D:
mcw85 [7k\]: Good game.
soulspirit [3k?\]: he resigned??
Rocker [4d\]: oh?
evanj [2d\]: over
soulspirit [3k?\]: omg
expat [4d?\]: :(
evanj [2d\]: wow
Ophelia [-\]: oh, wow
Over9k [2k\]: thanks usgo1
kiusasori [2d\]: .......................
soulspirit [3k?\]: dam
Korea4K [2d\]: w should resign
Isobeutel [2d?\]: w resign
GoGetta [-\]: GOOD GAME
checkered: he's not going to resign
takamifan [4k\]: nooooooooooo
huggy [3k\]: upper right gain for w is as big as loss of lower left group
evanj [2d\]: um, he DID
Goury [2k\]: Wonderful play by Andy
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